Zach Wilson, QB, Denver Broncos

Originally posted by jersey49er:

I was thinking hopefully a 3rd from the Pats But realistically a 4th and another late rd pick in 2022

Not getting anything higher than a 4th.

Originally posted by jersey49er:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by jersey49er:

My thoughts too, and I'd trade up for any of those 3 QBs, prob have to move up 5-8 spots considering I think the niners finish 7-9

And I don't think a trade up will be there. If the Jets keep losing, Lawrence is a lock at #1. They won't trade that pick for anything. Fields likely goes #2 or #3 depending on who is picking and then if Wilson continues playing at his current torrid pace, he likely goes in the Top 5 and you'll have half a dozen teams in a better position to trade up for him than the 49ers if a team at that spot doesn't take him outright.

Like I said in the other thread, if you're hoping for the 49ers to draft a QB next year, get familiar with Kyle Trask and Mac Jones because those are your realistic targets.

Yeah I was just looking at the draft order as of now and literally every team before the niners besides like 3 could take a QB, and I like Mac Jones a lot, could honestly see him going in the 1st

Mac Jones is someone to keep your eye late in the first or in the second.

Originally posted by JDMathews49ers:

Originally posted by jersey49er:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by jersey49er:

My thoughts too, and I'd trade up for any of those 3 QBs, prob have to move up 5-8 spots considering I think the niners finish 7-9

And I don't think a trade up will be there. If the Jets keep losing, Lawrence is a lock at #1. They won't trade that pick for anything. Fields likely goes #2 or #3 depending on who is picking and then if Wilson continues playing at his current torrid pace, he likely goes in the Top 5 and you'll have half a dozen teams in a better position to trade up for him than the 49ers if a team at that spot doesn't take him outright.

Like I said in the other thread, if you're hoping for the 49ers to draft a QB next year, get familiar with Kyle Trask and Mac Jones because those are your realistic targets.

Yeah I was just looking at the draft order as of now and literally every team before the niners besides like 3 could take a QB, and I like Mac Jones a lot, could honestly see him going in the 1st

Mac Jones is someone to keep your eye late in the first or in the second.

But why can't we be aggressive like KC was. They were almost in the exact same position. They got close to winning one but decided to trade up to get their guy. John Lynch needs to do the same.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by JDMathews49ers:

Originally posted by jersey49er:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by jersey49er:

My thoughts too, and I'd trade up for any of those 3 QBs, prob have to move up 5-8 spots considering I think the niners finish 7-9

And I don't think a trade up will be there. If the Jets keep losing, Lawrence is a lock at #1. They won't trade that pick for anything. Fields likely goes #2 or #3 depending on who is picking and then if Wilson continues playing at his current torrid pace, he likely goes in the Top 5 and you'll have half a dozen teams in a better position to trade up for him than the 49ers if a team at that spot doesn't take him outright.

Like I said in the other thread, if you're hoping for the 49ers to draft a QB next year, get familiar with Kyle Trask and Mac Jones because those are your realistic targets.

Yeah I was just looking at the draft order as of now and literally every team before the niners besides like 3 could take a QB, and I like Mac Jones a lot, could honestly see him going in the 1st

Mac Jones is someone to keep your eye late in the first or in the second.

But why can't we be aggressive like KC was. They were almost in the exact same position. They got close to winning one but decided to trade up to get their guy. John Lynch needs to do the same.

You're right and they hit big on Mahomes and will be a special team for awhile, I would not be mad to do the same for Wilson IMO

Originally posted by Waterbear:
But why can't we be aggressive like KC was. They were almost in the exact same position. They got close to winning one but decided to trade up to get their guy. John Lynch needs to do the same.

Because KC was fortunate that Mahomes was still around at 12. The only reason he was still around at that point is because teams had reservations due to the offense that he was coming out, whether or not he could transition to the NFL. Since that point, teams have shown that they'll go early on QBs coming out of any offense. Now we're seeing guys like Daniel Jones go Top 10 and if Wilson winds up following that same pattern, he'll likely be out of range for the 49ers to move up to get him, if they were interested in him.

If you're picking at 5 and you want a QB, why wouldn't you draft a guy like this? Or if you're picking at 5 and don't want/need a QB, why would you trade way down when there's probably a very QB needy team picking at #7 or #8 that will still allow you to draft a blue chip prospect while adding some picks?

Basically for the 49ers to have a realistic shot at Wilson or Fields, they'd need to be really really bad for the rest of the season and only end up winning 5 or 6 games at most.

Originally posted by jersey49er:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by JDMathews49ers:

Originally posted by jersey49er:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by jersey49er:

My thoughts too, and I'd trade up for any of those 3 QBs, prob have to move up 5-8 spots considering I think the niners finish 7-9

And I don't think a trade up will be there. If the Jets keep losing, Lawrence is a lock at #1. They won't trade that pick for anything. Fields likely goes #2 or #3 depending on who is picking and then if Wilson continues playing at his current torrid pace, he likely goes in the Top 5 and you'll have half a dozen teams in a better position to trade up for him than the 49ers if a team at that spot doesn't take him outright.

Like I said in the other thread, if you're hoping for the 49ers to draft a QB next year, get familiar with Kyle Trask and Mac Jones because those are your realistic targets.

Yeah I was just looking at the draft order as of now and literally every team before the niners besides like 3 could take a QB, and I like Mac Jones a lot, could honestly see him going in the 1st

Mac Jones is someone to keep your eye late in the first or in the second.

But why can't we be aggressive like KC was. They were almost in the exact same position. They got close to winning one but decided to trade up to get their guy. John Lynch needs to do the same.

You're right and they hit big on Mahomes and will be a special team for awhile, I would not be mad to do the same for Wilson IMO

Agreed. There's no telling how the season will finish out for us, but I'm gonna be overly optimistic and say we get to 7-9. That's probably a top 15 pick? The crop of QBs coming out this year is just like a few years ago with Watson, Jackson and Mahomes.

Some team will probably take a flyer on Trey Lance. I really want Lynch to go all in to get Wilson for this football team.

Originally posted by PuckFarag10:
Agreed. There's no telling how the season will finish out for us, but I'm gonna be overly optimistic and say we get to 7-9. That's probably a top 15 pick? The crop of QBs coming out this year is just like a few years ago with Watson, Jackson and Mahomes.

Some team will probably take a flyer on Trey Lance. I really want Lynch to go all in to get Wilson for this football team.

And there will still very likely be 6-7 QB hungry teams picking ahead of the 49ers. My advice would be don't fall too much in love with Wilson because he's likely to be playing in some other uniform in the NFL next year.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by PuckFarag10:

Agreed. There's no telling how the season will finish out for us, but I'm gonna be overly optimistic and say we get to 7-9. That's probably a top 15 pick? The crop of QBs coming out this year is just like a few years ago with Watson, Jackson and Mahomes.

Some team will probably take a flyer on Trey Lance. I really want Lynch to go all in to get Wilson for this football team.

And there will still very likely be 6-7 QB hungry teams picking ahead of the 49ers. My advice would be don't fall too much in love with Wilson because he's likely to be playing in some other uniform in the NFL next year.

Probably so, sadly. Like you said, unless we're picking top 10 we don't have a realistic shot at him because he's on a meteoric rise (ala Joe Burrow) and we'd have to lose 10+ games.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by FranchisePoster:

Alex only made $13 million in 2017, his last year with the Chiefs.

I'm sure they could find a way to make it work with Garoppolo. Shanahan won't want to have another rebuilding year, that is certain.

It doesn't have to be a rebuilding year. If Shanahan picks the right QB, we could have a run like the 2004 Steelers did with Rothlisberger and their great Defense.

Just because you draft a QB in the first doesn't mean it's a throwaway season. Most teams that draft a QB in the first aren't very good in the first place so they usually don't even make the playoffs.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

But why can't we be aggressive like KC was. They were almost in the exact same position. They got close to winning one but decided to trade up to get their guy. John Lynch needs to do the same.

Because KC was fortunate that Mahomes was still around at 12. The only reason he was still around at that point is because teams had reservations due to the offense that he was coming out, whether or not he could transition to the NFL. Since that point, teams have shown that they'll go early on QBs coming out of any offense. Now we're seeing guys like Daniel Jones go Top 10 and if Wilson winds up following that same pattern, he'll likely be out of range for the 49ers to move up to get him, if they were interested in him.

If you're picking at 5 and you want a QB, why wouldn't you draft a guy like this? Or if you're picking at 5 and don't want/need a QB, why would you trade way down when there's probably a very QB needy team picking at #7 or #8 that will still allow you to draft a blue chip prospect while adding some picks?

Basically for the 49ers to have a realistic shot at Wilson or Fields, they'd need to be really really bad for the rest of the season and only end up winning 5 or 6 games at most.

The chiefs came from 27th to the 10th spot to get him.if your willing to pay the price there's always a chance. I think we will end up drafting in the mid teens.

Originally posted by FranchisePoster:
It doesn't have to be a rebuilding year. If Shanahan picks the right QB, we could have a run like the 2004 Steelers did with Rothlisberger and their great Defense.

Just because you draft a QB in the first doesn't mean it's a throwaway season. Most teams that draft a QB in the first aren't very good in the first place so they usually don't even make the playoffs.

Based on everything I know about Shanahan, I don't see anyway he turns over his offense to a rookie QB. I think if Garoppolo isn't the QB next year then it'll be someone like Cousins.

Originally posted by Oilcan:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
But why can't we be aggressive like KC was. They were almost in the exact same position. They got close to winning one but decided to trade up to get their guy. John Lynch needs to do the same.

Because KC was fortunate that Mahomes was still around at 12. The only reason he was still around at that point is because teams had reservations due to the offense that he was coming out, whether or not he could transition to the NFL. Since that point, teams have shown that they'll go early on QBs coming out of any offense. Now we're seeing guys like Daniel Jones go Top 10 and if Wilson winds up following that same pattern, he'll likely be out of range for the 49ers to move up to get him, if they were interested in him.

If you're picking at 5 and you want a QB, why wouldn't you draft a guy like this? Or if you're picking at 5 and don't want/need a QB, why would you trade way down when there's probably a very QB needy team picking at #7 or #8 that will still allow you to draft a blue chip prospect while adding some picks?

Basically for the 49ers to have a realistic shot at Wilson or Fields, they'd need to be really really bad for the rest of the season and only end up winning 5 or 6 games at most.

The chiefs came from 27th to the 10th spot to get him.if your willing to pay the price there's always a chance. I think we will end up drafting in the mid teens.

In a year where teams generally weren't looking for QB's and there were a lot of doubts about the top prospects, sure. I don't see that being the case in the upcoming draft. I think in the Top 10 picks you'll have at least 5 teams looking for QB's and only a limited amount of prospects that are worth taking that early.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Based on everything I know about Shanahan, I don't see anyway he turns over his offense to a rookie QB. I think if Garoppolo isn't the QB next year then it'll be someone like Cousins.

lol Yup. I still feel that Kirk Cousins in red and gold is inevitable, especially with all the chatter about Minnesota being open to moving on from Cousins.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Based on everything I know about Shanahan, I don't see anyway he turns over his offense to a rookie QB. I think if Garoppolo isn't the QB next year then it'll be someone like Cousins.

lol Yup. I still feel that Kirk Cousins in red and gold is inevitable, especially with all the chatter about Minnesota being open to moving on from Cousins.

I think that would set the franchise back 3-5 years. Cousins like Jimmy has proved that he is what he is. A solid QB in Non Meaningful games, but when s**t hits the fan he can't get it done.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Based on everything I know about Shanahan, I don't see anyway he turns over his offense to a rookie QB. I think if Garoppolo isn't the QB next year then it'll be someone like Cousins.

lol Yup. I still feel that Kirk Cousins in red and gold is inevitable, especially with all the chatter about Minnesota being open to moving on from Cousins.

As great of a mind as Shanahan is, he's also sort of stuck in the past. So many teams give the keys to young QBs. It would be hard for a rookie to deal with his system, but if we're able to get more dynamic in the passing game because of some broken plays so be it. Wilson could be that guy for us.