I don't think this trade takes the Lions out of the QB market, if anything they've got the future assets to help them make a deal.
Deshaun Watson could change the make up, otherwise it's looking like you need to go to 2 or 3 to get him.
I personally would do it, but I don't think we will.
There is a slight worry about his blitz recognition and also his hero complex. He plays with reckless abandon at times, not sure he can pull that off without getting hurt in the league.
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Jan 31, 2021 at 12:56 AM
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Jan 31, 2021 at 1:17 AM
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Trade up for Wilson or Fields if one of them drops to 6-7.
Or get Watson.
Last resort back up plan is Mac Jones at 12 and get him ready for when Jimmy gets hurt.
Those are the only 3 options I want to see at QB. One of Fields, Wilson, Watson, or Jones better be on this damn roster come start of the season.
Or get Watson.
Last resort back up plan is Mac Jones at 12 and get him ready for when Jimmy gets hurt.
Those are the only 3 options I want to see at QB. One of Fields, Wilson, Watson, or Jones better be on this damn roster come start of the season.
Jan 31, 2021 at 1:21 AM
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Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Trade up for Wilson or Fields if one of them drops to 6-7.
Or get Watson.
Last resort back up plan is Mac Jones at 12 and get him ready for when Jimmy gets hurt.
Those are the only 3 options I want to see at QB. One of Fields, Wilson, Watson, or Jones better be on this damn roster come start of the season.
And if they aren't?
Jan 31, 2021 at 2:19 AM
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:Originally posted by Ezekiel38:Trade up for Wilson or Fields if one of them drops to 6-7.
Or get Watson.
Last resort back up plan is Mac Jones at 12 and get him ready for when Jimmy gets hurt.
Those are the only 3 options I want to see at QB. One of Fields, Wilson, Watson, or Jones better be on this damn roster come start of the season.
And if they aren't?
Then we are ****ed if Jimmy gets hurt again. And may be the same even if he doesn't.
There are no other acceptable QB options for me. Wentz...Ryan...Cousins...
Jan 31, 2021 at 6:12 AM
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Problem is that the Panthers will probably be trying to trade up there, too, to prevent someone else from doing it. And maybe the Lions will (they're rebuilding after all; I highly doubt they're satisfied with Goff).Originally posted by Ezekiel38:Originally posted by LifelongNiner:Originally posted by Ezekiel38:Trade up for Wilson or Fields if one of them drops to 6-7.
Or get Watson.
Last resort back up plan is Mac Jones at 12 and get him ready for when Jimmy gets hurt.
Those are the only 3 options I want to see at QB. One of Fields, Wilson, Watson, or Jones better be on this damn roster come start of the season.
And if they aren't?
Then we are ****ed if Jimmy gets hurt again. And may be the same even if he doesn't.
There are no other acceptable QB options for me. Wentz...Ryan...Cousins...
Jan 31, 2021 at 6:52 AM
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Problem is that the Panthers will probably be trying to trade up there, too, to prevent someone else from doing it. And maybe the Lions will (they're rebuilding after all; I highly doubt they're satisfied with Goff).
I think the Chiefs will try to trade up and take a QB. They will then go and offer Mahomes to the 49ers for a 3rd round pick.
Jan 31, 2021 at 6:59 AM
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Originally posted by Ezekiel38:Trade up for Wilson or Fields if one of them drops to 6-7.
Or get Watson.
Last resort back up plan is Mac Jones at 12 and get him ready for when Jimmy gets hurt.
Those are the only 3 options I want to see at QB. One of Fields, Wilson, Watson, or Jones better be on this damn roster come start of the season.
Disagree. Mac Jones is a solid prospect but his upside isn't any higher then what Jimmy provides.
If we take a QB in the first it needs to be for more upside. We're not desperate here for a competent replacement Bc jimmy is solid. If Lance or Fields are there you grab in a heartbeat.
Jan 31, 2021 at 8:43 AM
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Originally posted by Niners418:
Disagree. Mac Jones is a solid prospect but his upside isn't any higher then what Jimmy provides.
If we take a QB in the first it needs to be for more upside. We're not desperate here for a competent replacement Bc jimmy is solid. If Lance or Fields are there you grab in a heartbeat.
I agree that Jones may not be an upgrade for Jimmy, but he gives them a younger, cheaper option. Jimmy is going to have to be replaced because of his salary or injuries in the next couple of years.
Jan 31, 2021 at 8:49 AM
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Originally posted by Ezekiel38:Originally posted by LifelongNiner:Originally posted by Ezekiel38:Trade up for Wilson or Fields if one of them drops to 6-7.
Or get Watson.
Last resort back up plan is Mac Jones at 12 and get him ready for when Jimmy gets hurt.
Those are the only 3 options I want to see at QB. One of Fields, Wilson, Watson, or Jones better be on this damn roster come start of the season.
And if they aren't?
Then we are ****ed if Jimmy gets hurt again. And may be the same even if he doesn't.
There are no other acceptable QB options for me. Wentz...Ryan...Cousins...
I can understand the fear of injury thing. But outside of that, when Jimmy starts, we generally win. I don't see how we're f**ked if he's healthy. Most of this narrative is really based off of one pass. He hits that one pass to Sanders and no one is having this conversation.
With that said, I'd like a QB behind him capable of winning games should he go down. I'm not all in on moving picks for a new QB unless guys start falling. Id rather have starting quality OL across the board. That would help. A lot. A lot more than people are willing to admit.
I'd like a change in philosophy on getting OL that can pass protect as well as run block. That would help as well. A lot. And it wouldn't cost nearly as much as moving up for a QB to only put them behind this shoestring O-line.
Jan 31, 2021 at 8:51 AM
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:Problem is that the Panthers will probably be trying to trade up there, too, to prevent someone else from doing it. And maybe the Lions will (they're rebuilding after all; I highly doubt they're satisfied with Goff).Originally posted by Ezekiel38:Originally posted by LifelongNiner:Originally posted by Ezekiel38:Trade up for Wilson or Fields if one of them drops to 6-7.
Or get Watson.
Last resort back up plan is Mac Jones at 12 and get him ready for when Jimmy gets hurt.
Those are the only 3 options I want to see at QB. One of Fields, Wilson, Watson, or Jones better be on this damn roster come start of the season.
And if they aren't?
Then we are ****ed if Jimmy gets hurt again. And may be the same even if he doesn't.
There are no other acceptable QB options for me. Wentz...Ryan...Cousins...
If there not satisfied with Goff why would they take his contract when they could have just taken the top 10 pick that was reported ?
Jan 31, 2021 at 9:01 AM
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Originally posted by Niners418:Originally posted by Ezekiel38:Trade up for Wilson or Fields if one of them drops to 6-7.
Or get Watson.
Last resort back up plan is Mac Jones at 12 and get him ready for when Jimmy gets hurt.
Those are the only 3 options I want to see at QB. One of Fields, Wilson, Watson, or Jones better be on this damn roster come start of the season.
Disagree. Mac Jones is a solid prospect but his upside isn't any higher then what Jimmy provides.
If we take a QB in the first it needs to be for more upside. We're not desperate here for a competent replacement Bc jimmy is solid. If Lance or Fields are there you grab in a heartbeat.
This. I'm not getting the Jones love at all. If you are gonna get a QB, then let's really upgrade.
Jan 31, 2021 at 9:10 AM
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Zach Wilson says what I had been saying...
— Javier Vega (@JavierVeg_) January 6, 2021
but Jav what do you know pic.twitter.com/ocY4u4GwW9
Jan 31, 2021 at 9:12 AM
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Originally posted by jimrat:
Zach Wilson says what I had been saying...
— Javier Vega (@JavierVeg_) January 6, 2021
but Jav what do you know pic.twitter.com/ocY4u4GwW9
No cur, Javier is full of crap.
Jan 31, 2021 at 9:14 AM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by jimrat:Zach Wilson says what I had been saying...
— Javier Vega (@JavierVeg_) January 6, 2021
but Jav what do you know pic.twitter.com/ocY4u4GwW9
No cur, Javier is full of crap.
I only care what Zach has to say
Jan 31, 2021 at 9:16 AM
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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:I don't think this trade takes the Lions out of the QB market, if anything they've got the future assets to help them make a deal.
Deshaun Watson could change the make up, otherwise it's looking like you need to go to 2 or 3 to get him.
I personally would do it, but I don't think we will.
There is a slight worry about his blitz recognition and also his hero complex. He plays with reckless abandon at times, not sure he can pull that off without getting hurt in the league.
Question - Think about Watson, Mahomes, Allen, Herbert etc. they all had "what if's" and question marks.
The question is can Shanahan coach the s**t out of him and mold him into a beast! That's what it's all about imo. Kyle's supposed to be that guy.
So get me the kid who they believe has all the physical tools and now Kyle can break him down and teach him. And Kyle basically passed on every single one of these guys so who knows wth he thinks. lol
I have no problem trading up for a QB even if he sits for a year or two as long as Kyle and co believe it - I'll give it a shot too.