Zach Wilson, QB, Denver Broncos | Page 208

Mar 14, 2021 at 7:49 AM

49erBigMac
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Originally posted by rathman4481:
I was being facetious. Although I think being able to throw off platform is one of the most overrated things thrown around these days.

The problem with it is that some guys choose to throw off platform when they don't need to.

As long as you only do it when you're forced to, and can still make great throws. It's a very helpful skill to have.

Mar 14, 2021 at 11:52 AM

#3107

ChaunceyGardner
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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by rathman4481:
I was being facetious. Although I think being able to throw off platform is one of the most overrated things thrown around these days.

The problem with it is that some guys choose to throw off platform when they don't need to.

As long as you only do it when you're forced to, and can still make great throws. It's a very helpful skill to have.

I like off platform throwing now because the way the passing game is evolving. More pass rush, more nickle coverage = more moving around and hitting quick short throws especially over the middle. Used to get your receivers killed but now you will get penalized

Mar 17, 2021 at 5:40 AM

#3108

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Originally posted by 49ers808:

I'll talk about another thing that is incredibly naive for you to say/think: We will bring back Williams, Verrett, Juice, Moseley, Kwuan, Jones and Solly if we want him AND STILL have enough to bring in a player or 3 Mack, Safety and Edge. I guess I can't say that won't happen but I'm a lot less optimistic about it than you are when the cap took a dive due to COVID and we aren't one of the teams with a lot of room to work.

So what now? We've signed everybody I said so far except K'wuan, who is still available. Signed Mack and an edge.

[ Edited by boomer49er on Mar 17, 2021 at 5:04 PM ]

Mar 17, 2021 at 6:41 AM

#3109

49erBigMac
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They've certainly laid the foundation to take a swing. I personally wouldn't as I have Zach graded almost level with Fields, but if you had him graded significantly higher I wouldn't argue.

Jimmy gives us the flexibility that we don't have to do it, so if we call up with an offer, we can't get bullied into upping it.

Mar 23, 2021 at 6:34 PM

#3110

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every single pocket for Zach Wilson in the 2020 Boca Raton Bowl 👀 pic.twitter.com/47X0Rcwr1S
— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) March 24, 2021

Mar 23, 2021 at 6:46 PM

#3111

49ers808
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Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

I'll talk about another thing that is incredibly naive for you to say/think: We will bring back Williams, Verrett, Juice, Moseley, Kwuan, Jones and Solly if we want him AND STILL have enough to bring in a player or 3 Mack, Safety and Edge. I guess I can't say that won't happen but I'm a lot less optimistic about it than you are when the cap took a dive due to COVID and we aren't one of the teams with a lot of room to work.

So what now? We've signed everybody I said so far except K'wuan, who is still available. Signed Mack and an edge.

Not Solly

I stand corrected, I didn't anticipate the Dee Ford restructuring. I wasn't optimistic about it but am happy it did happen

Mar 24, 2021 at 2:16 PM

#3112

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Kapono's time to get picked apart.

Finally broke down Wilson tape, thought he was pretty underwhelming considering the hype (will go in detail for my write-up)

Side note: that BYU line handed out derriere whoopings (new scouting term)
— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) March 23, 2021

I like him just don't think I can put him over Fields or Lawrence... maybe Lance. He's a first round pick.

Negatives I'll go over in detail in my write up:

Late on a lot of passes, didn't see WIDE open receivers when playing in structure, consistently under threw fade passes.
— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) March 23, 2021

One of several examples that I'll talk about in my article

First-and-10... cover 0 (no deep safeties) misses wide open WR (top of the screen)

(gets called for grounding on the play) pic.twitter.com/XD7tah0efu
— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) March 23, 2021

Not enough buzz/love for that OL group... https://t.co/NCKC2uTNSJ
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) March 23, 2021

This guy sucks so bad he should fall way down the draft boards and be picked no higher than
...12.

Mar 24, 2021 at 2:47 PM

#3113

boomer49er
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Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

I'll talk about another thing that is incredibly naive for you to say/think: We will bring back Williams, Verrett, Juice, Moseley, Kwuan, Jones and Solly if we want him AND STILL have enough to bring in a player or 3 Mack, Safety and Edge. I guess I can't say that won't happen but I'm a lot less optimistic about it than you are when the cap took a dive due to COVID and we aren't one of the teams with a lot of room to work.

So what now? We've signed everybody I said so far except K'wuan, who is still available. Signed Mack and an edge.

Not Solly I stand corrected, I didn't anticipate the Dee Ford restructuring. I wasn't optimistic about it but am happy it did happen

But I clearly said Solly if we wanted him!

Also, we got Tartt back instead of signing a new safety, so call that even

Mar 24, 2021 at 3:26 PM

#3114

49ers808
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Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

I'll talk about another thing that is incredibly naive for you to say/think: We will bring back Williams, Verrett, Juice, Moseley, Kwuan, Jones and Solly if we want him AND STILL have enough to bring in a player or 3 Mack, Safety and Edge. I guess I can't say that won't happen but I'm a lot less optimistic about it than you are when the cap took a dive due to COVID and we aren't one of the teams with a lot of room to work.

So what now? We've signed everybody I said so far except K'wuan, who is still available. Signed Mack and an edge.

Not Solly I stand corrected, I didn't anticipate the Dee Ford restructuring. I wasn't optimistic about it but am happy it did happen

But I clearly said Solly if we wanted him!

Also, we got Tartt back instead of signing a new safety, so call that even

Ok man what else you want me to say? You want a cake or a cookie?

Mar 24, 2021 at 3:27 PM

#3115

49ers808
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Kapono's time to get picked apart.

Finally broke down Wilson tape, thought he was pretty underwhelming considering the hype (will go in detail for my write-up)

Side note: that BYU line handed out derriere whoopings (new scouting term)
— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) March 23, 2021

I like him just don't think I can put him over Fields or Lawrence... maybe Lance. He's a first round pick.

Negatives I'll go over in detail in my write up:

Late on a lot of passes, didn't see WIDE open receivers when playing in structure, consistently under threw fade passes.
— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) March 23, 2021

One of several examples that I'll talk about in my article

First-and-10... cover 0 (no deep safeties) misses wide open WR (top of the screen)

(gets called for grounding on the play) pic.twitter.com/XD7tah0efu
— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) March 23, 2021

Not enough buzz/love for that OL group... https://t.co/NCKC2uTNSJ
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) March 23, 2021

This guy sucks so bad he should fall way down the draft boards and be picked no higher than
...12.

Agree. Trash. Should be there if we want him

Mar 24, 2021 at 4:54 PM

#3116

boomer49er
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Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

I'll talk about another thing that is incredibly naive for you to say/think: We will bring back Williams, Verrett, Juice, Moseley, Kwuan, Jones and Solly if we want him AND STILL have enough to bring in a player or 3 Mack, Safety and Edge. I guess I can't say that won't happen but I'm a lot less optimistic about it than you are when the cap took a dive due to COVID and we aren't one of the teams with a lot of room to work.

So what now? We've signed everybody I said so far except K'wuan, who is still available. Signed Mack and an edge.

Not Solly I stand corrected, I didn't anticipate the Dee Ford restructuring. I wasn't optimistic about it but am happy it did happen

But I clearly said Solly if we wanted him!

Also, we got Tartt back instead of signing a new safety, so call that even

Ok man what else you want me to say? You want a cake or a cookie?

f**king cake

Mar 24, 2021 at 5:42 PM

#3117

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Won't make it past the jets

Mar 24, 2021 at 6:20 PM

#3118

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Kapono's time to get picked apart.

Finally broke down Wilson tape, thought he was pretty underwhelming considering the hype (will go in detail for my write-up)

Side note: that BYU line handed out derriere whoopings (new scouting term)
— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) March 23, 2021

I like him just don't think I can put him over Fields or Lawrence... maybe Lance. He's a first round pick.

Negatives I'll go over in detail in my write up:

Late on a lot of passes, didn't see WIDE open receivers when playing in structure, consistently under threw fade passes.
— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) March 23, 2021

One of several examples that I'll talk about in my article

First-and-10... cover 0 (no deep safeties) misses wide open WR (top of the screen)

(gets called for grounding on the play) pic.twitter.com/XD7tah0efu
— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) March 23, 2021

Not enough buzz/love for that OL group... https://t.co/NCKC2uTNSJ
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) March 23, 2021

This guy sucks so bad he should fall way down the draft boards and be picked no higher than
...12.

Lol. Read my mind. He stinks, trade back and grab him around 23.

Mar 25, 2021 at 11:57 AM

#3119

JustinNiner
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Originally posted by Eli_23:
Won't make it past the jets

I wonder what the Jets are going to do. They have a ton of holes on their roster, so if they think that Darnold is a good QB who has been dealt shotty hands, no doubt they have a great opportunity to accumulate a king's ransom of picks if 49ers want to jump up from #12.

Mar 25, 2021 at 12:00 PM

#3120

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Originally posted by NYniner85:

every single pocket for Zach Wilson in the 2020 Boca Raton Bowl 👀 pic.twitter.com/47X0Rcwr1S
— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) March 24, 2021

Boom or Bust...

How's he going to respond when he is going to face pressure on nearly every pass attempt in the NFL, right now he's had it easy and in the few moments he's actually had to face fair competition he's wilted.