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Zach Wilson, QB, Denver Broncos

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Zach Wilson, QB, Denver Broncos

Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by PuckFarag10:
Originally posted by 9erguy:
Going to be many disappointed fans when we don't land him. Unless we lose out, relying on potential trades to get a rising QB in the draft is going to be tough. Based on what I have seen and heard I would like to draft him but not getting my hopes up.

The FO should be willing to trade / give up just about anything to get Wilson. If it takes 3 years of first round picks and something more to move up to get him, so be it. We need a QB like him to be competitive long term in this division where R. Wilson, Murray and Goff reside. No more settling for the castoffs of other teams, reclamation projects (Darnold ), or old veterans like Ryan or Cousins. We need to get young and dynamic at the QB position like the rest of the NFL is moving toward. Just my 2c.

The issue is there are many QB needy teams. Another team picking ahead of us could very well have the same idea.

So assuming(and it's still early to assume this) we get like 10th pick but Lawrence/Fields go 1/2. Why would the team picking at #3 take our trade offer instead of an equal offer from a weaker team? I would imagine offering up our 2022 1st rounder or whatever we offer the team in question would assume we'd get back on track.

So it's fun to evaluate these guys and say I want him but until we actually see where we pick, who's in the draft and how things unfold it's pointless.

I'd love to have Wilson here but IMO he's playing out of our range. As beat up as we are I don't see us picking early enough to snag him without the trade up and I simply don't know if we'll make that move or have the ammo to make it.

Fair points.

One thing in our favour if it becomes a back and forth in trade offers with another team is that team may be a lot more needy in other positions than we are.

I know a FQB is important but would those teams be willing to give up half their draft over a two year period to outbid us with so many other needs? I hope not.

The reasons you state above are why I'm watching the teams below us closely and where they finish.

If the Giants are at 3 or 4 and not ready to move on from Jones there's no way they trade with Washington over us, ditto Dallas.

Miami (via Houston) and New England aren't likely to trade.

Panthers and Falcons etc.

We'll be last in our division so we don't have to worry about that as much as other teams.

I'm hoping we can sneak into the cracks that appear in the top 10 so where qb neddy teams and their division rivals finish up is very interesting to watch for me.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Stanley:
How good would Jimmy look on BYU playing Troy?

who cares? I'm sure any pro is gonna look fine. He's also got about $50M coming his way the next two yrs He clearly isn't anything but a game manager at this point. Our HC doesn't trust him.

Not a comment on jimmy, but I watched the BYU Boise game. Nothing Wilson did jumped out at me, if anything I think he runs too much.
Originally posted by Stanley:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Stanley:
How good would Jimmy look on BYU playing Troy?

who cares? I'm sure any pro is gonna look fine. He's also got about $50M coming his way the next two yrs He clearly isn't anything but a game manager at this point. Our HC doesn't trust him.

Not a comment on jimmy, but I watched the BYU Boise game. Nothing Wilson did jumped out at me, if anything I think he runs too much.
running too much is bad.. was he running with decent pockets ?
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Steve Young approves, so I'm good with it!
Missing his best receiver, TE Matt bushman. Tore his ACL before the season. There's some good and bad throws from Wilson in this vid...BYU got their ass kicked.


Originally posted by 801niner:
Missing his best receiver, TE Matt bushman. Tore his ACL before the season. There's some good and bad throws from Wilson in this vid...BYU got their ass kicked.

Feels like i'm watching JG in this game.
Originally posted by Stanley:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Stanley:
How good would Jimmy look on BYU playing Troy?

who cares? I'm sure any pro is gonna look fine. He's also got about $50M coming his way the next two yrs He clearly isn't anything but a game manager at this point. Our HC doesn't trust him.

Not a comment on jimmy, but I watched the BYU Boise game. Nothing Wilson did jumped out at me, if anything I think he runs too much.

I mean you brought up Jimmy?

Cool he runs and get's free yards. We DO NOT take advantage of that like a ton of other teams in the league. Steve Young brought it up...there's yards to be had on the ground for a QB. He said as much as an 3-4 extra 1st downs a game just based off the ability to scramble. This isn't your dad's NFL anymore game has changed.

You don't think our OL would benefit from a QB that can move and extend plays? You don't think our receivers would benefit?

Wilson can make every throw you want him to make at the next level, he's got great vision, plus mobility, great off play-actions/bootlegs. Throw in our playmakers, running game, and Kyle. We're moving the damn ball!


good and bad from his last game.

I like him a lot as a prospect. I think he's also getting hyped up a lot across the board...hopefully they can get a great bowl game because I would like to see him sling it against some better comp. You can tell he's added weight (around 10lbs of muscle reportedly) since last yr. You can tell he's put in a ton of work to improve his overall game. hand injury is in the past.

I also wish Lance could have played more this yr. Kid is a top end prospect as well. Gonna be interesting.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Stanley:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
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who cares? I'm sure any pro is gonna look fine. He's also got about $50M coming his way the next two yrs He clearly isn't anything but a game manager at this point. Our HC doesn't trust him.

Not a comment on jimmy, but I watched the BYU Boise game. Nothing Wilson did jumped out at me, if anything I think he runs too much.

I mean you brought up Jimmy?

Cool he runs and get's free yards. We DO NOT take advantage of that like a ton of other teams in the league. Steve Young brought it up...there's yards to be had on the ground for a QB. He said as much as an 3-4 extra 1st downs a game just based off the ability to scramble. This isn't your dad's NFL anymore game has changed.

You don't think our OL would benefit from a QB that can move and extend plays? You don't think our receivers would benefit?

Wilson can make every throw you want him to make at the next level, he's got great vision, plus mobility, great off play-actions/bootlegs. Throw in our playmakers, running game, and Kyle. We're moving the damn ball!

Absolutely great point. Murray gaining 7-20 yards on the ground on a play where he is pressured or just a broken play is pretty helpful to the offense. Arizona tied for second best in sacks allowed per game in NFL with 1.2, and it's not due to a great OL.
Originally posted by titan:
Steve Young approves, so I'm good with it!

Steve liked Jimmy at one time too.
There are at least 5 prospects that could possibly be an upgrade over JG. At least on paper they look to have more upside with better mobility and good to great arms. There may be a couple more that show up as the season goes on and after the combine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-9Ntj-a_B4
Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Fair points.

One thing in our favour if it becomes a back and forth in trade offers with another team is that team may be a lot more needy in other positions than we are.

I know a FQB is important but would those teams be willing to give up half their draft over a two year period to outbid us with so many other needs? I hope not.

The reasons you state above are why I'm watching the teams below us closely and where they finish.

If the Giants are at 3 or 4 and not ready to move on from Jones there's no way they trade with Washington over us, ditto Dallas.

Miami (via Houston) and New England aren't likely to trade.

Panthers and Falcons etc.

We'll be last in our division so we don't have to worry about that as much as other teams.

I'm hoping we can sneak into the cracks that appear in the top 10 so where qb neddy teams and their division rivals finish up is very interesting to watch for me.

That's a great point about trades within divisions!
Originally posted by CaliWG:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-9Ntj-a_B4
Is he on the baseball team also ?
This kid's talent is top notch, no doubt. But it seems like he has all the time in the world to go through his progressions and go deep. I'm not talking about him buying time on his own, I'm talking about clean pockets for days. I just wanna know, How is he under pressure?
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