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Originally posted by rathman4481:
Did Jed okay the trade up to #3?

Owners are always briefed on such moves ahead of time. It's a courtesy so they don't look dumb and uninformed in future conversations. Jed has the Power to intervene, but that would break the hiring agreement and put a high risk of blowing everything up.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 1swift:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Let's get real.

McVay said Goof can't do progressions, and he wanted Matt Stanford. The Rams went out and made it happen.

Kyle (presumably plus) wants Mac Jones. We just gave Kyle a contract extension. Lynch has final say. What do we do?

If you say no, and draft Lance or anybody else, after every loss, it's "well, he can't do what I asked. It's not My fault. I Told You So. It's Your fault."

The Shanahans were forced out of Washington because they didn't want to play RGIII (whom they made Rookie of the Year, with an offense they Knew couldn't take them far), and Did want to play a 4th round Cousins.

Kyle begged for permission to get out of his contract early to leave Cleveland, when they drafted Johnny Football Manziel. He got it.

Kyle Shanahan is GONE if you force a player on him that can't run his offense.

I know, there are M A N Y fools on this board with the hubris to value Their Pick at quarterback over retaining the smartest coach in the league. Do that, and we ain't Never seeing a Lombardi again in decades. Kyle made RGIII Rookie of the year, and Matt Ryan the NFL Offensive Player of the Year and the Most Valuable Player, and he took this horrible crappy team to the Super Bowl in his third year, and I'll lay odds he'll make Mac Jones Rookie of the Year this year. But NO. You guys know best.

"Beam me up, Scotty. There is no intelligent life down here."

I can't wait to start picking apart this league with Intelligence. That's how we got the first 5 Lombardi's, and it's how we'll get the next 5. Or not.
I never thought of that point above. Very good point! I think if Lynch picks the QB, other than it being a really bad idea, it would probably break their friendship and relationship and that won't ever heal again.

Why did KS go out of his way to say he feels there's 5 guys? If he believes there's 5 there shouldn't be a problem as long as its one of those 5, right? He didn't have to say that. He could've easily said 3

At #3, there's (obviously) three QB's that can be taken in any number of ways, and on top of that, at #3 (if Lawrence and Zach are taken) there are going to be three that everybody thinks can run Kyle's system (Mac, Fields, Lance) Mond/Mills etc... are lower tier athletes that aren't in the class of Mac/Fields/Lance (according to a lot of opinions) so 2+3 = 5.

Having said that, the more confusing he makes it, the better for him - or so he says - because it doesn't tell anything to the rest of the NFL, and even to the first guys who are picking (Jags and Jets). I'm sure that both Jags and Jets are listening to what Kyle says - and so what the Jags and Jets are saying too. I'm betting Urban was either forced to look more closely at Fields and the other QB's or was impelled to do so because of what Kyle said or did. Same with the Jets. There is a very very very slim chance that Zach comes to the 49ers because the Jets take Fields. (Very slim chance) But why not try to help that a little bit by saying stuff that might entice the two above him to possibly to do so.

And I can follow all of that...but if he really means 5, not gamesmanship, he has effectively okayed those 5, right? He may have a preference and an order of those 5 but within the list of the 5 it shouldn't' be looked at as someone else forced a QB on him he didn't want
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by rathman4481:
Did Jed okay the trade up to #3?

Owners are always briefed on such moves ahead of time. It's a courtesy so they don't look dumb and uninformed in future conversations. Jed has the Power to intervene, but that would break the hiring agreement and put a high risk of blowing everything up.

He 100% should intervene and stop this madness
LMAO this fanbase is now begging Jed to intervene?
Originally posted by est1985:
He 100% should intervene and stop this madness

Yes, let's get Jed involved with personnel matters, because that's what good owners always do.
Originally posted by est1985:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by rathman4481:
Did Jed okay the trade up to #3?

Owners are always briefed on such moves ahead of time. It's a courtesy so they don't look dumb and uninformed in future conversations. Jed has the Power to intervene, but that would break the hiring agreement and put a high risk of blowing everything up.

He 100% should intervene and stop this madness

You do realize Jed has made a f***Ing ton of mistakes himself should he really be the one to set them straight.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by est1985:
He 100% should intervene and stop this madness

Yes, let's get Jed involved with personnel matters, because that's what good owners always do.

Daniel Snyder is shaking his head in agreement
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Rathof44:
you don't win national championships if you're a bad decision maker" Thank you Captain Obvious.

That pocket was really getting decimated on that throw to a top 12 pick.

Cam Newton won a National championship lol.

I mean I think I saw Kyle trask make that throw a s**t load of times this yr? Why don't we just draft him at 3?

The madness has gotten worse. Trask, and Jones bring the same s**t to the table.

Who does this sound like? its not Mac Jones but it is the same scouting report):

. A decisive and quick operator, he's a highly intelligent thrower that often attacks with a plan. He has thorough knowledge and smarts to attack all three levels of the field, as he's experienced reads in many different manners.
[ Edited by Rathof44 on Apr 27, 2021 at 6:53 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by est1985:
He 100% should intervene and stop this madness

Yes, let's get Jed involved with personnel matters, because that's what good owners always do.

Just this once! Kyle is a great play caller/coach but he literally chose Brian Hoyer/solly over Watson and mahomes. Personally I don't trust him to pick qbs
Originally posted by Oilcan:
Originally posted by est1985:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by rathman4481:
Did Jed okay the trade up to #3?

Owners are always briefed on such moves ahead of time. It's a courtesy so they don't look dumb and uninformed in future conversations. Jed has the Power to intervene, but that would break the hiring agreement and put a high risk of blowing everything up.

He 100% should intervene and stop this madness

You do realize Jed has made a f***Ing ton of mistakes himself should he really be the one to set them straight.

I really don't want to go out on a limb for Jed but he literally learned from his mistakes and stepped back and let the people he pays run the show. If Kyle picks Mac over the elite prospects then he is showing that he hasn't learned from his past mistakes.
Originally posted by est1985:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by rathman4481:
Did Jed okay the trade up to #3?

Owners are always briefed on such moves ahead of time. It's a courtesy so they don't look dumb and uninformed in future conversations. Jed has the Power to intervene, but that would break the hiring agreement and put a high risk of blowing everything up.

He 100% should intervene and stop this madness

So you want Jed to control football operations again? Really? Really?
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Daniel Snyder is shaking his head in agreement

Snyder and Jerruh are like:

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Originally posted by BOI49er:
So you want Jed to control football operations again? Really? Really?

I already have one favorite team with a s**t owner that fancies himself a GM and sometimes assistant coach. Don't kill the 49ers for me too.
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Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by est1985:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by rathman4481:
Did Jed okay the trade up to #3?

Owners are always briefed on such moves ahead of time. It's a courtesy so they don't look dumb and uninformed in future conversations. Jed has the Power to intervene, but that would break the hiring agreement and put a high risk of blowing everything up.

He 100% should intervene and stop this madness

So you want Jed to control football operations again? Really? Really?

Just this time.
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