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Originally posted by est1985:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by est1985:
He 100% should intervene and stop this madness
Yes, let's get Jed involved with personnel matters, because that's what good owners always do.
Just this once! Kyle is a great play caller/coach but he literally chose Brian Hoyer/solly over Watson and mahomes. Personally I don't trust him to pick qbs
Originally posted by mayo49:No thank you...It literally took us fans paying for banners to fly over levis to put him in his place.
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by est1985:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by rathman4481:
Did Jed okay the trade up to #3?
Owners are always briefed on such moves ahead of time. It's a courtesy so they don't look dumb and uninformed in future conversations. Jed has the Power to intervene, but that would break the hiring agreement and put a high risk of blowing everything up.
He 100% should intervene and stop this madness
So you want Jed to control football operations again? Really? Really?
Just this time.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Just this time.
Originally posted by 1swift:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 1swift:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by BOI49er:I never thought of that point above. Very good point! I think if Lynch picks the QB, other than it being a really bad idea, it would probably break their friendship and relationship and that won't ever heal again.
Let's get real.
McVay said Goof can't do progressions, and he wanted Matt Stanford. The Rams went out and made it happen.
Kyle (presumably plus) wants Mac Jones. We just gave Kyle a contract extension. Lynch has final say. What do we do?
If you say no, and draft Lance or anybody else, after every loss, it's "well, he can't do what I asked. It's not My fault. I Told You So. It's Your fault."
The Shanahans were forced out of Washington because they didn't want to play RGIII (whom they made Rookie of the Year, with an offense they Knew couldn't take them far), and Did want to play a 4th round Cousins.
Kyle begged for permission to get out of his contract early to leave Cleveland, when they drafted Johnny Football Manziel. He got it.
Kyle Shanahan is GONE if you force a player on him that can't run his offense.
I know, there are M A N Y fools on this board with the hubris to value Their Pick at quarterback over retaining the smartest coach in the league. Do that, and we ain't Never seeing a Lombardi again in decades. Kyle made RGIII Rookie of the year, and Matt Ryan the NFL Offensive Player of the Year and the Most Valuable Player, and he took this horrible crappy team to the Super Bowl in his third year, and I'll lay odds he'll make Mac Jones Rookie of the Year this year. But NO. You guys know best.
"Beam me up, Scotty. There is no intelligent life down here."
I can't wait to start picking apart this league with Intelligence. That's how we got the first 5 Lombardi's, and it's how we'll get the next 5. Or not.
Why did KS go out of his way to say he feels there's 5 guys? If he believes there's 5 there shouldn't be a problem as long as its one of those 5, right? He didn't have to say that. He could've easily said 3
At #3, there's (obviously) three QB's that can be taken in any number of ways, and on top of that, at #3 (if Lawrence and Zach are taken) there are going to be three that everybody thinks can run Kyle's system (Mac, Fields, Lance) Mond/Mills etc... are lower tier athletes that aren't in the class of Mac/Fields/Lance (according to a lot of opinions) so 2+3 = 5.
Having said that, the more confusing he makes it, the better for him - or so he says - because it doesn't tell anything to the rest of the NFL, and even to the first guys who are picking (Jags and Jets). I'm sure that both Jags and Jets are listening to what Kyle says - and so what the Jags and Jets are saying too. I'm betting Urban was either forced to look more closely at Fields and the other QB's or was impelled to do so because of what Kyle said or did. Same with the Jets. There is a very very very slim chance that Zach comes to the 49ers because the Jets take Fields. (Very slim chance) But why not try to help that a little bit by saying stuff that might entice the two above him to possibly to do so.
And I can follow all of that...but if he really means 5, not gamesmanship, he has effectively okayed those 5, right? He may have a preference and an order of those 5 but within the list of the 5 it shouldn't' be looked at as someone else forced a QB on him he didn't want
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by est1985:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by rathman4481:
Did Jed okay the trade up to #3?
Owners are always briefed on such moves ahead of time. It's a courtesy so they don't look dumb and uninformed in future conversations. Jed has the Power to intervene, but that would break the hiring agreement and put a high risk of blowing everything up.
He 100% should intervene and stop this madness
So you want Jed to control football operations again? Really? Really?
Just this time.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 1swift:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 1swift:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by BOI49er:I never thought of that point above. Very good point! I think if Lynch picks the QB, other than it being a really bad idea, it would probably break their friendship and relationship and that won't ever heal again.
Let's get real.
McVay said Goof can't do progressions, and he wanted Matt Stanford. The Rams went out and made it happen.
Kyle (presumably plus) wants Mac Jones. We just gave Kyle a contract extension. Lynch has final say. What do we do?
If you say no, and draft Lance or anybody else, after every loss, it's "well, he can't do what I asked. It's not My fault. I Told You So. It's Your fault."
The Shanahans were forced out of Washington because they didn't want to play RGIII (whom they made Rookie of the Year, with an offense they Knew couldn't take them far), and Did want to play a 4th round Cousins.
Kyle begged for permission to get out of his contract early to leave Cleveland, when they drafted Johnny Football Manziel. He got it.
Kyle Shanahan is GONE if you force a player on him that can't run his offense.
I know, there are M A N Y fools on this board with the hubris to value Their Pick at quarterback over retaining the smartest coach in the league. Do that, and we ain't Never seeing a Lombardi again in decades. Kyle made RGIII Rookie of the year, and Matt Ryan the NFL Offensive Player of the Year and the Most Valuable Player, and he took this horrible crappy team to the Super Bowl in his third year, and I'll lay odds he'll make Mac Jones Rookie of the Year this year. But NO. You guys know best.
"Beam me up, Scotty. There is no intelligent life down here."
I can't wait to start picking apart this league with Intelligence. That's how we got the first 5 Lombardi's, and it's how we'll get the next 5. Or not.
Why did KS go out of his way to say he feels there's 5 guys? If he believes there's 5 there shouldn't be a problem as long as its one of those 5, right? He didn't have to say that. He could've easily said 3
At #3, there's (obviously) three QB's that can be taken in any number of ways, and on top of that, at #3 (if Lawrence and Zach are taken) there are going to be three that everybody thinks can run Kyle's system (Mac, Fields, Lance) Mond/Mills etc... are lower tier athletes that aren't in the class of Mac/Fields/Lance (according to a lot of opinions) so 2+3 = 5.
Having said that, the more confusing he makes it, the better for him - or so he says - because it doesn't tell anything to the rest of the NFL, and even to the first guys who are picking (Jags and Jets). I'm sure that both Jags and Jets are listening to what Kyle says - and so what the Jags and Jets are saying too. I'm betting Urban was either forced to look more closely at Fields and the other QB's or was impelled to do so because of what Kyle said or did. Same with the Jets. There is a very very very slim chance that Zach comes to the 49ers because the Jets take Fields. (Very slim chance) But why not try to help that a little bit by saying stuff that might entice the two above him to possibly to do so.
And I can follow all of that...but if he really means 5, not gamesmanship, he has effectively okayed those 5, right? He may have a preference and an order of those 5 but within the list of the 5 it shouldn't' be looked at as someone else forced a QB on him he didn't want
Forcing something on Kyle - when Kyle runs the show - is a hard concept to buy. I think the Jimmy deal was something that was unexpected rather than forced. Kyle's always like Jimmy, and both John and Kyle liked Jimmy prior to the trade -- that's why Bill sent Jimmy to the 49ers. My understanding is that they were the only ones in the NFC that asked for Jimmy. Nobody else in the NFC asked. Point being - I don't think John could force a QB onto Kyle if Kyle didn't want that particular QB -- Kyle has too much power for John or anybody else to do that to him.
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
LMAO this fanbase is now begging Jed to intervene?
Originally posted by jcs:
Force this QB decision on Kyle and he might literally create another Powerpoint to get out of this HC job.
Originally posted by jcs:
It's NFL Draft Week!
— SEC Network (@SECNetwork) April 26, 2021
Most Players Drafted by Conference:
2020: SEC
2019: SEC
2018: SEC
2017: SEC
2016: SEC
2015: SEC
2014: SEC
2013: SEC
2012: SEC
2011: SEC
2010: SEC
2009: SEC
2008: SEC
2007: SEC
Is that good?
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 1swift:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 1swift:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by BOI49er:I never thought of that point above. Very good point! I think if Lynch picks the QB, other than it being a really bad idea, it would probably break their friendship and relationship and that won't ever heal again.
Let's get real.
McVay said Goof can't do progressions, and he wanted Matt Stanford. The Rams went out and made it happen.
Kyle (presumably plus) wants Mac Jones. We just gave Kyle a contract extension. Lynch has final say. What do we do?
If you say no, and draft Lance or anybody else, after every loss, it's "well, he can't do what I asked. It's not My fault. I Told You So. It's Your fault."
The Shanahans were forced out of Washington because they didn't want to play RGIII (whom they made Rookie of the Year, with an offense they Knew couldn't take them far), and Did want to play a 4th round Cousins.
Kyle begged for permission to get out of his contract early to leave Cleveland, when they drafted Johnny Football Manziel. He got it.
Kyle Shanahan is GONE if you force a player on him that can't run his offense.
I know, there are M A N Y fools on this board with the hubris to value Their Pick at quarterback over retaining the smartest coach in the league. Do that, and we ain't Never seeing a Lombardi again in decades. Kyle made RGIII Rookie of the year, and Matt Ryan the NFL Offensive Player of the Year and the Most Valuable Player, and he took this horrible crappy team to the Super Bowl in his third year, and I'll lay odds he'll make Mac Jones Rookie of the Year this year. But NO. You guys know best.
"Beam me up, Scotty. There is no intelligent life down here."
I can't wait to start picking apart this league with Intelligence. That's how we got the first 5 Lombardi's, and it's how we'll get the next 5. Or not.
Why did KS go out of his way to say he feels there's 5 guys? If he believes there's 5 there shouldn't be a problem as long as its one of those 5, right? He didn't have to say that. He could've easily said 3
At #3, there's (obviously) three QB's that can be taken in any number of ways, and on top of that, at #3 (if Lawrence and Zach are taken) there are going to be three that everybody thinks can run Kyle's system (Mac, Fields, Lance) Mond/Mills etc... are lower tier athletes that aren't in the class of Mac/Fields/Lance (according to a lot of opinions) so 2+3 = 5.
Having said that, the more confusing he makes it, the better for him - or so he says - because it doesn't tell anything to the rest of the NFL, and even to the first guys who are picking (Jags and Jets). I'm sure that both Jags and Jets are listening to what Kyle says - and so what the Jags and Jets are saying too. I'm betting Urban was either forced to look more closely at Fields and the other QB's or was impelled to do so because of what Kyle said or did. Same with the Jets. There is a very very very slim chance that Zach comes to the 49ers because the Jets take Fields. (Very slim chance) But why not try to help that a little bit by saying stuff that might entice the two above him to possibly to do so.
And I can follow all of that...but if he really means 5, not gamesmanship, he has effectively okayed those 5, right? He may have a preference and an order of those 5 but within the list of the 5 it shouldn't' be looked at as someone else forced a QB on him he didn't want
Forcing something on Kyle - when Kyle runs the show - is a hard concept to buy. I think the Jimmy deal was something that was unexpected rather than forced. Kyle's always like Jimmy, and both John and Kyle liked Jimmy prior to the trade -- that's why Bill sent Jimmy to the 49ers. My understanding is that they were the only ones in the NFC that asked for Jimmy. Nobody else in the NFC asked. Point being - I don't think John could force a QB onto Kyle if Kyle didn't want that particular QB -- Kyle has too much power for John or anybody else to do that to him.
Force this QB decision on Kyle and he might literally create another Powerpoint to get out of this HC job.
Originally posted by Rathof44:
QBs from the SEC not named Manning to win Super Bowl in last 40 years: ZERO. Is that good?
Originally posted by socal1632:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
LMAO this fanbase is now begging Jed to intervene?
Yes gdamitt yes. This is as serious as a damn heart attack🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
(using best Sith voice 
)
If we take Mac Jones one thing is certain, I don't see George going on and on about how beautiful he is, or wearing a shirt with his face on it like he does with Jimmy.
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Originally posted by jcs:
It's NFL Draft Week!
— SEC Network (@SECNetwork) April 26, 2021
Most Players Drafted by Conference:
2020: SEC
2019: SEC
2018: SEC
2017: SEC
2016: SEC
2015: SEC
2014: SEC
2013: SEC
2012: SEC
2011: SEC
2010: SEC
2009: SEC
2008: SEC
2007: SEC
Is that good?
QBs from Ohio St. to win a Super Bowl in last 40 years: ZERO. Is that good?