Originally posted by NYniner85:
So this will be my last post in here until if/when he's picked by SF (yes I know you're welcome)
I don't think I've ever read/listen/watched more on one dude during a draft process....and my overall evaluation hasn't changed.
I think he's a good processer pre/post snap. I think he's accurate...under structure. I think he throws a very catchable ball...under structure. Good mechanics...under structure. Pretty deep ball when he can set his feet. He's got good feet in the pocket, but overall his pocket was pretty damn clean. He's a good QB. He's got an above avg release, I wouldn't say its at Jimmy's level either. The way Jimmy throws the ball and how he torques up (doesn't need to set his feet properly) helps him get the ball out fast...it also leads to issues downfield because of his footwork.
It seems like his teammate love him, so that's a plus. That's kinda the main difference between him and Rosen. (a lot of other similarities though).
This is just my opinion but the way Bama players are coached up overall, a lot of them come in ready to play BUT are also for the most part maxed out. Is what it is.
NOW, IMO his ceiling is damn near there. Maybe he's the best QB yr 1 but yr 3/4 I don't think so. He has issues extending plays, he has issues making off platform throws. Lack of athletic ability will only show more in the NFL. His arm talent while not the worst in the league is bottom half (Dalton level)....it shows when he can't step into his throw or reset his feet...just the truth of it and it looks ugly.... Once he got past his 1st read his pass grade dropped a lot. The talent level, amazing OL, wide open WRs, and elite coaching all played a part and yes he just did what he was asked to do (very well). The off field stuff and how he handles himself is a red flag for me as well.
I see no elite god given traits at all and everything he is good at is a learned trait. Kyle will have to change his ways on how he builds his OL and if he doesn't change his ways on QB evaluation...I don't expect the OL to change either. Kid needs that to be successful. Kyle brought up Brees, well he's always had a top 5 OL which NO spent massively amount of cash/draft capital to spend on.
That said I think whoever they draft will have success, I do think there are massively different degrees of success and the margin of error is different for all of them....if we listened to Kyle the past six months it really seemed like he wanted that elite trait guy that he could develop and grow with. The fact that they were in on Watson kinda backed up that take....but if they go Jones it kinds tells me he hasn't changed or evolved as a coach and a lot of what he's said was hot air. 15 yrs ago Mac might be more sot after, the league has changed a TON though. Rules are different coaches call the game differently....young kids learning to play QB are also elite level athletes...that's where the league is going whether some of you want to believe it or not. When you have a player that's a Multi-Threat you have an advantage. when you step on the field and someone has a QB like that and you don't, you're automatically a man down. We see who Kyle has problems with and what type of QB we constantly kick the s**t out of...Kyle HAS to see this.
We will see AND no matter what I'm gonna root for whomever, I'm a fan and have the right to have an opinion on a player and see if he can prove me (and a lot of fans) wrong...I'm not gonna just follow the company line or trust the process anymore. My cash will be spent elsewhere until Jones because Brady or whatever some people actually believe he is.
Great post man. Crystallizing what quite a few of us believe. Can't think of a more uninspiring, vanilla pick at QB.
