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Dshearn
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Guys like Simms and Cossell rate QBs in a vacuum. QBs with NFL type of route experience, play action, and/or footwork immediately get bumped up. They don't look at whether or not a NFL coach will actually coach them up or how good the players are around that QB.
That is one thing we got. I have zero doubt that Shanny can play call for his QB. Thats why Pitts and trading back up for Mond verus a QB at 3 is soon damn high on my list.
I am sure Jones or Fields or Lance would work for Shanny.. .because of his work with Mullens. The offense can get yardage for sure.
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Ensatsu
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Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL. He's not wrong.
Is Grant Cohn evil. It sounds like he is itching for the 49ers to fail.
Duh. Of course thats his strategy. If the Niners suck, most fans go to his page, lol.
I respect him for his business sense.
I'll be honest. Making money while posting about the Niners sounds like a dream job
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Cisco0623
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Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL. He's not wrong.
Is Grant Cohn evil. It sounds like he is itching for the 49ers to fail.
Duh. Of course thats his strategy. If the Niners suck, most fans go to his page, lol.
I respect him for his business sense.
I'll be honest. Making money while posting about the Niners sounds like a dream job
The webzone should pay us for this beautiful content.
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Joecool
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Originally posted by jcs:
I wonder if Mike is feeding him all this...
Montana didn't have measurements? 6'2" and one of the most athletic QBs during his time? GTFO!
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OnTheClock
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Mac "Too Fat" Jones
McCokehole Jones
Sack Jones
Gonna be fun around here.
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Joecool
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CJ Beathard and Nick Mullens have great footwork and playbook knowledge.
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jobiwon
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People keep repeating why they don't like Mac. Here are my thoughts to get them in.
We saw in the fall Peters only went to see Mac and Wilson. After that, I watched all of their games. Mac's stock kept rising as the year went on as he got settled and the offense expanded. He moved from a late 1st up to the teens. Then he won the championship. I saw people putting him the the top ten in mocks.
Then he goes to the senior bowl and people are impressed. You hear how much Carolina likes him.
NE and NO are good matches too and you can't count out Chicago and Wash. There was also a chance Atlanta or Detroit go QB.
We trade to get above Carolina who was looking at moving up too. They were also looking into people like Darnold and Watson.
We were worried going to 5 or 6 that someone else would jump ahead of us still. It's come out that other coaches and GM's think highly of Mac.
Of course we like all 5 QB's. Only Mac is the one Kyle loves and a perfect fit with what he wants in a QB.
There was the story about Carolina's GM getting a text at a pro day that the trade went down and showed it to Peters who smiled knowing they controlled the 3rd QB and jumped Carolina.
Yes, the other two are good QB picks and would do OK here. They aren't what Kyle wants. He doesn't like off schedule play. He wants his system executed and has built in answers on a play for a QB.
People keep bringing up Mac not having the strongest arm and not being fit. He will improve and get in better shape once in the NFL just like Brady did. People insist the others can improve their accuracy, reads, and decision making.
You might get some improvements there but not to the level Kyle will want. We were still waiting for Jimmy to throw on time in this offense. Dak hasn't improved enough yet.
I'd love an athletic QB like Mahomes which is why I wanted Wilson. You have to hope the pocket skills that Kyle wants are at a high level also. It goes along with what Kurt Warner said with the athletic guys struggle in the playoffs when a defense shuts them down. Give me a QB that can pick apart a D like Brady or Brees still. Any athleticism is a bonus.
I had said before that with the other choices to expect them to win the Pro Bowl at some point. With Mac, it's the SB.
I see someone like Fields going to a team like Denver with a defensive head coach. I'd want a star QB for that side of the ball. Our star is Kyle. The big issue is that star QB will want 50mil in 5 years. Mac should just be a piece of the offense and allow us to keep the rest of the team together.
Peter King said Mac will be what Kyle wants in being a coach on the field. What a combination they will be together. Then even though i love the Gut, I think we take Dalman C in the 3rd to complete the braintrust. They talk about what Mack brings on the mental side of playing center and I think Dalman will be that guy in the future.
It should be Mac and like Shein says, he has a good chance to be ROTY.
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Heroism
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Originally posted by Joecool:
CJ Beathard and Nick Mullens have great footwork and playbook knowledge.
This is incorrect. CJ Beathard's footwork is not good. Mullens is okay.
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Joecool
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90% of Mac & Fries Jones highlights I have seen have been in a comfortable (understatement) pocket throwing to a guy at minimum 5 yards open.
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D-NOTTE
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Originally posted by Joecool:
90% of Mac & Fries Jones highlights I have seen have been in a comfortable (understatement) pocket throwing to a guy at minimum 5 yards open.
Same with Zach Wilson.....
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Joecool
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Imagine if Jimmy G had Tyreke Hill, Jerry Rice in his prime, Derrick Henry, and the entire 1994 DAL OL.
That's essentially what Mac Jones had. He's not going to have that in SF.
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Joecool
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Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
Originally posted by Joecool:
90% of Mac & Fries Jones highlights I have seen have been in a comfortable (understatement) pocket throwing to a guy at minimum 5 yards open.
Same with Zach Wilson.....
Yeah, both those guys are ranked 4 and 5 for me. Zach's more accurate production was in 2019.
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BuZzB05
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They are mocking fun to Mac Jones because the players and people are hating on him?! Its sad.