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Originally posted by Dr_Gonzo:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Rathof44:
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Right before he gets blasted by Chandler Jones as he actually has to scramble because the perfect pockets he's used to no longer exist.

That's a mocked up image in a niner uni. He is actually running in a crimson tide uni. Just in case you thought he never left the pocket.

That's a mocked up image with his legs from the team buffet dinner photoshopped into a niner uni. Just in case you thought he ever left the pocket.

This will just turn out to be a meme! Hahahahahaha FTP
Wait!!

What if NYJ draft Mac Jones!!???
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by scooterhd:
I think there are plenty of reasons to keep secrets.

You have to consider that there are a ton of connections to the Jets. If your hypothetical board looks like Lawrence, Fields, Lance, Wilson and you start hyping up Fields as the pick and making things public, you may be tempting the Jets to reconsider their selection. They want to run the same offense and if big brother is thinking a certain way they are going to reexplore that as well. Tipping your hand could also let Atlanta and the Jets work a deal to swap picks, allowing the Jets to draft Wilson at 4 (and collecting more picks), and the Falcons to take Fields at 2. Or could be a 3 team trade with someone else coming in to move to 2. Thing back to the 2017 draft where we knew Chicago's play and could threaten to move the pick unless we were compensated. You dont want to give up any leverage to other teams. They will exploit you.

You also dont want teams to behind you to be given time to pre plan moves and trades. Right now the draft really starts with SF and you want to keep it that way. Making your pick public lessens the chaos. Then we know what QBs are available at 4. Teams have more authority to really start working on deals with Atlanta, Cinci, Miami, Carolina, etc. You dont want to empower anybody. Keep the draft chaotic and make them do all their homework and prepare for all possible avenues.

Yup. Instead of asking, "why do they have to hide anything?", ask, "why should they reveal anything?"
NC's post was more about the 49ers being really bad at keeping the #3 pick a secret. First of all I think there is an NFL rule saying an NFL team can't reveal their picks till draft day. (or so I think - I could be wrong) So they can't really overtly reveal their pick.

Now, I don't think they actively revealed their pick, they just didn't publicly announce it. NC's post was basically stating the 49ers really were bad at keeping a secret. My point was that - they didn't need to be good at keeping that #3 pick a secret it because there was little risk of anything bad happening to the 49ers if they accidently revealed something due to their actions.

So what if Jets trade with Atlanta and Atlanta picks Fields - you get Zach. So what if there is a three team trade to #2, 49ers are guaranteed to get a top 3 QB at the #3 pick. Who cares what other teams do behind you, you pick a QB at #3 and you are on to round two. Whether or not 49ers actually or wanted to reveal their pick at #3 or not, the point was that the 49ers didn't have to really be concerned about keeping their #3 pick a total secret. The risk is little to none, at #3 because they either get Lawrence (unlikely) Zack (unlikely) or (Lance/Field/Mac - likely).
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by rtj03:
https://mobile.twitter.com/grantcohn/status/1387131096538574853?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1387131096538574853%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.si.com%2Fnfl%2F49ers%2Fnews%2Fgrant-cohns-final-49ers-mock-draft-for-2021

thats going viral now. Not sure what to think. If that's him in the video I pray we don't draft him.

welcome to 100 pages ago...

I don't get it...he is hungry and wants milk....

Makes sense to me
Sure some of us are late to the dance; but, WTF!
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

If he's the pick I'll get used to it, but as of now, that just doesn't look right.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
The assumption is that Kyle would take Wilson over Jones. The reality is that unless the Jets or the Jags take Jones, our pick is going to be Mac Jones.

Yeah, crazy times. I'm glad I'm not locked in on one guy because I'd probably have gone bat s**t crazy by now.

"Most pro ready QB in the class..."

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
The assumption is that Kyle would take Wilson over Jones. The reality is that unless the Jets or the Jags take Jones, our pick is going to be Mac Jones.

Yeah, crazy times. I'm glad I'm not locked in on one guy because I'd probably have gone bat s**t crazy by now.


LMAO!

Speaking of bat s**t crazy.

[ Edited by NCommand on Apr 28, 2021 at 5:22 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
"Most pro ready QB in the class..."


"Josh Rosen" - Chris Simms
[ Edited by 49ersRing on Apr 28, 2021 at 5:19 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
"Most pro ready QB in the class..."


But he's not


and how is fields not pro ready? Dude has 22 starts and a s**t load of big games under his belt.
Pick Mac Jones and just end this thing.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
"Most pro ready QB in the class..."


But he's not


and how is fields not pro ready? Dude has 22 starts and a s**t load of big games under his belt.

Trey Lance? The most pro ready???

Crocker's gotta stay in his lane. He's losing it wanting those CB skills at QB.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
"Josh Rosen" - Chris Simms

Yeah, that term might become the kiss of death.
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by scooterhd:
I think there are plenty of reasons to keep secrets.

You have to consider that there are a ton of connections to the Jets. If your hypothetical board looks like Lawrence, Fields, Lance, Wilson and you start hyping up Fields as the pick and making things public, you may be tempting the Jets to reconsider their selection. They want to run the same offense and if big brother is thinking a certain way they are going to reexplore that as well. Tipping your hand could also let Atlanta and the Jets work a deal to swap picks, allowing the Jets to draft Wilson at 4 (and collecting more picks), and the Falcons to take Fields at 2. Or could be a 3 team trade with someone else coming in to move to 2. Thing back to the 2017 draft where we knew Chicago's play and could threaten to move the pick unless we were compensated. You dont want to give up any leverage to other teams. They will exploit you.

You also dont want teams to behind you to be given time to pre plan moves and trades. Right now the draft really starts with SF and you want to keep it that way. Making your pick public lessens the chaos. Then we know what QBs are available at 4. Teams have more authority to really start working on deals with Atlanta, Cinci, Miami, Carolina, etc. You dont want to empower anybody. Keep the draft chaotic and make them do all their homework and prepare for all possible avenues.

Yup. Instead of asking, "why do they have to hide anything?", ask, "why should they reveal anything?"
NC's post was more about the 49ers being really bad at keeping the #3 pick a secret. First of all I think there is an NFL rule saying an NFL team can't reveal their picks till draft day. (or so I think - I could be wrong) So they can't really overtly reveal their pick.

Now, I don't think they actively revealed their pick, they just didn't publicly announce it. NC's post was basically stating the 49ers really were bad at keeping a secret. My point was that - they didn't need to be good at keeping that #3 pick a secret it because there was little risk of anything bad happening to the 49ers if they accidently revealed something due to their actions.

So what if Jets trade with Atlanta and Atlanta picks Fields - you get Zach. So what if there is a three team trade to #2, 49ers are guaranteed to get a top 3 QB at the #3 pick. Who cares what other teams do behind you, you pick a QB at #3 and you are on to round two. Whether or not 49ers actually or wanted to reveal their pick at #3 or not, the point was that the 49ers didn't have to really be concerned about keeping their #3 pick a total secret. The risk is little to none, at #3 because they either get Lawrence (unlikely) Zack (unlikely) or (Lance/Field/Mac - likely).

The bolded is where I don't agree. There is no reason to give the teams behind you any tips on what you will do. Why give them the intel so they can plan accordingly? Let them wonder. Let them waste time planning hypotheticals in their war room. Let them scramble after the pick is announced. Maybe Kyle still resents the Falcons for playing stupid defense and allowing him to be associated with the biggest blown lead in SB history. It is always better to misdirect and/or reveal nothing. What if Kyle says he likes a certain QB, then the Jets take that QB, now everyone knows SF was forced to select their second choice.
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

whoa, where you been?
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