Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
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Yet Mac was sacked 5 times to Trey's 6.
Again, not about stats but about visuals. Big difference. If you can't admit Trey looked uneasy in the pocket and Mac didn't, we aren't going to find any common ground.
I think the problem is, with you, is that you cemented yourself as a Mac Jones fanboy. Your name says it all. People have a hard time taking you seriously because we think you cannot be impartial towards Lance. It's totally fine if you think Mac will have the better career, is better right now, etc, but that's just what it is right now.
Just like NY85 cemented himself as a Trey Lance guy. Everything is negative about Jimmy. You really have to read between the lines and find the truth in someone's argument if they will never find the positives in something else.
That's absolutely understandable. I have no quarrels with that stance and I really do not care who or who doesn't take me seriously.
However, I was never all over the top about Mac and didn't even start defending him that much until half the posts in this thread were over the top harsh about Jones. I really saw a large lack of understanding the basic nuances of the position from the "Fat Mac", "he can't get out of the pocket so he sucks" elementary insult crowd. To be honest, I didn't even want him starting for Alabama last year. I was very pro Bryce Young…..but, Mac went out and was damn near perfect. He made it to where we were never worried about converting a 3rd and long, not sweating a turnover, and just always had 100% confidence in the offense. Not Tua, not Hurts or any other of the starters on our title teams had ever looked close to as good as he did. Of course, he had 1st rounders everywhere but he had to go out and produce.
Not to mention, we saw and heard things about him running the scout team vs the starting defense that no one believed till last year. One was when Saban said told him to do something different, or to stop doing something, and he told Saban to "have your defense stop it". Talk.
In short, he has made me a believer.
Furthermore, and this is nothing personal against Lance, as I think he is a great person. I wanted any other of the first 4 qbs but him. I didn't like trading up for any of those guys anyway.
With Lance, the track record is just not there. There's more unknowns to him than any qb I've seen taken that high. He was just as much a runner as thrower in his one year on college.
And to add, the way he's looked in the pocket tells me he has a loooong ways to go before becoming a consistently playable qb in the league. I don't expect everyone to agree, but that's what I see.
