Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Rookie of the Year if you ask me. I mean it's not like he's gaining most of his pass yards playing catch up or padding his stats in blowout losses like Justin Herbert did in his rookie year.

The knocks on him regarding the Patriots W-L record have gone silent, so now people have to bash him for running the offense at a high level because it isn't and never has been a Bruce Arians chuck and duck style offense.

https://www.clnsmedia.com/anatomy-patriots-screen-passes/

Yeah but Patriots with Brady ran screens like 10% of the time. Mac is almost double that.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Yeah but Patriots with Brady ran screens like 10% of the time. Mac is almost double that.

So you're saying that Mac Jones won't become Brady?

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by dugo:
Honestly I was one those that didn't want Jones on the Niners at all and I didn't want Lance either.. I wanted Fields. I thought the NFL defenses would figure Jones out quickly and Lance was to raw to waste 3 picks on (Preferably i would of liked to have seen the Niners retain the 3 picks we gave up but thats another story) ..I'm not sure Jones would be having the same success here as He's having NE..the system and experienced coaching has allowed Jones to grow and gain confidence ..Belichik didn't cut Cam for no reason he seen something in Jones thats for sure Tiime will tell as to Jones continued success as Defenses figure out his rhythms and patterns ..As for myself I hope all the Rookie QBs become successful ..thats what makes Football great ..the competition .. That said I'm HOPING to see Lance become The future of the Niners..I'm just not sure Lance has the same quality of EXPERIENCED coaching behind Him as Jones does ..thats worrisome...

There isn't much to figure out. This is very much the same offense McDaniel ran with Brady. It is the "New England" offense and it hasn't changed in a decade. It is the ultimate complementary football that has brought the Lombardi to New England repeatedly.

Not so much what he did as how he did it, hit throws in stride, on time and perfectly placed. 19/23 and 3 TDs

He also was challenged early, Browns stopped the run and got them in 3rd and long in 1st quarter. He converted the 3rd downs (7 out of 9)

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Myles Garrett should twist his pepperoni titties

He pantsed Garret and his posse
Who knew Mac was the enforcer the league needs.
Meanwhile Lance can't make it through one start without hurting himself

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
The knocks on him regarding the Patriots W-L record have gone silent, so now people have to bash him for running the offense at a high level because it isn't and never has been a Bruce Arians chuck and duck style offense.

https://www.clnsmedia.com/anatomy-patriots-screen-passes/

I mean you guys were pretty silent with that 139 yard turd he laid last week. Didn't hear much about him from any of you.

But he lights up a team for 198 yards and 3 TDs this week (his 1st 3TD game right?) and the chest thumping starts right back up again like you never left.

Going silent isin't a 1-sided thing,...let's not even pretend like it is.

2nd,...I know you're not going to like to hear this, but he's not the complete package just yet. I know you see him as a 10 yr vet whenever he has one of these 199 yard games, but there are multiple levels he has to reach before he's fully arrived.

Case in point, Jimmy's "superb" year in 2019 where he was slobbered all over as well. Most of you ignored the inconsistencies in his game and promoted him to levels he hadn't achieved. Sure enough come playoff time, when the competition was more fierce, he sputtered.

Will Mac Jones do the same? Will he become more consistent,...especially down the field? Will these 139 yard outings disappear? Will he rise to the level of competition again and again?

If you Mac Jones fans are so sure of him,....guarantee us these things NOW!

Otherwise,...it's just alot of extreme gloating over solid play. You'd think he just clinched an AFC CG birth with how excited some of you are that he plays like a competent NFL QB.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
The knocks on him regarding the Patriots W-L record have gone silent, so now people have to bash him for running the offense at a high level because it isn't and never has been a Bruce Arians chuck and duck style offense.

https://www.clnsmedia.com/anatomy-patriots-screen-passes/

I mean you guys were pretty silent with that 139 yard turd he laid last week. Didn't hear much about him from any of you.

But he lights up a team for 198 yards and 3 TDs this week (his 1st 3TD game right?) and the chest thumping starts right back up again like you never left.

Going silent isin't a 1-sided thing,...let's not even pretend like it is.

2nd,...I know you're not going to like to hear this, but he's not the complete package just yet. I know you see him as a 10 yr vet whenever he has one of these 199 yard games, but there are multiple levels he has to reach before he's fully arrived.

Case in point, Jimmy's "superb" year in 2019 where he was slobbered all over as well. Most of you ignored the inconsistencies in his game and promoted him to levels he hadn't achieved. Sure enough come playoff time, when the competition was more fierce, he sputtered.

Will Mac Jones do the same? Will he become more consistent,...especially down the field? Will these 139 yard outings disappear? Will he rise to the level of competition again and again?

If you Mac Jones fans are so sure of him,....guarantee us these things NOW!

Otherwise,...it's just alot of extreme gloating over solid play. You'd think he just clinched and AFC CG birth with how excited some of you are that he plays like a competent NFL QB.

You mean the game he WON last week?

It was more fun watching the haters like yourself reach on the alligator death roll that filled so many of you with fake rage.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
The knocks on him regarding the Patriots W-L record have gone silent, so now people have to bash him for running the offense at a high level because it isn't and never has been a Bruce Arians chuck and duck style offense.

https://www.clnsmedia.com/anatomy-patriots-screen-passes/

I mean you guys were pretty silent with that 139 yard turd he laid last week. Didn't hear much about him from any of you.

But he lights up a team for 198 yards and 3 TDs this week (his 1st 3TD game right?) and the chest thumping starts right back up again like you never left.

Going silent isin't a 1-sided thing,...let's not even pretend like it is.

2nd,...I know you're not going to like to hear this, but he's not the complete package just yet. I know you see him as a 10 yr vet whenever he has one of these 199 yard games, but there are multiple levels he has to reach before he's fully arrived.

Case in point, Jimmy's "superb" year in 2019 where he was slobbered all over as well. Most of you ignored the inconsistencies in his game and promoted him to levels he hadn't achieved. Sure enough come playoff time, when the competition was more fierce, he sputtered.

Will Mac Jones do the same? Will he become more consistent,...especially down the field? Will these 139 yard outings disappear? Will he rise to the level of competition again and again?

If you Mac Jones fans are so sure of him,....guarantee us these things NOW!

Otherwise,...it's just alot of extreme gloating over solid play. You'd think he just clinched and AFC CG birth with how excited some of you are that he plays like a competent NFL QB.

I went back through this thread at the time before the draft, and I gotta say, you probably should g even be allowed to post in here. Some of the stuff you put out was absolute trash regarding Jones. Just ludicrous. Now he comes out guns blazing, making your posts look even more idiotic, and your doubling down. Learn to take the L and move on

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Do we have to continue with this second guessing. Nearly everyone felt that Jones was probably the most ready to play......

The Niners could have selected him and probably won some games in the future but it's clear that they looked around the league at the trend to athletic QBs and decided that they wanted to go that route.

Shouldn't that be the end of this? That's really just that. My guy was Fields, but Kyle has infinitely more knowledge on the two than I do.

We'll see if it's the right choice or not. Mac looking like a legit QB doesn't change any of this. Again,...this stuff eerily reminds me of the 2019 Jimmy G overhype train. Come playoff time,...what did it all mean? Everyone's not Tom Brady or Joe Montana when the going gets tough, so relax a little, lol. Don't put him in the Hall just yet.

I mean Mac's clearly a better player than Jimmy is, at least in that offense. I'm just saying though.

Originally posted by dugo:
Honestly I was one those that didn't want Jones on the Niners at all and I didn't want Lance either.. I wanted Fields. I thought the NFL defenses would figure Jones out quickly and Lance was to raw to waste 3 picks on (Preferably i would of liked to have seen the Niners retain the 3 picks we gave up but thats another story) ..I'm not sure Jones would be having the same success here as He's having NE..the system and experienced coaching has allowed Jones to grow and gain confidence ..Belichik didn't cut Cam for no reason he seen something in Jones thats for sure Tiime will tell as to Jones continued success as Defenses figure out his rhythms and patterns ...

The underlined part. Why doe the celebrators not want to have legit discussion about this? You obviously know your stuff, so please post more.

I say this once a month without much recognition regarding it,...but the NFL, as is often said, is A LEAGUE OF ADJUSTMENTS.

Kyle knows this himself having had RG3 to try and foster. How'd that pan out?

Legit teams know exactly how to play us with Jimmy G by now. Give some of these defensive coaches a year of game film on Mac in the Patriots offense and he becomes a sitting target. Ok then, how will his game react? If you are sure he will be just fine,...what have you seen from him this season that makes you so sure?

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
I went back through this thread at the time before the draft, and I gotta say, you probably should g even be allowed to post in here. Some of the stuff you put out was absolute trash regarding Jones. Just ludicrous. Now he comes out guns blazing, making your posts look even more idiotic, and your doubling down. Learn to take the L and move on

Why not quote it then? I mean I have no problem quoting you yesterday about how you're having a hard time not switching from being a 49er to being a Patriot fan. #YourWords #NotMine

Simply click the quote button.

Look,...Mac's not Tom Brady,...never will be. Dirty plays like last week verify what I think about the guy. They reassure me as to why I'm happy we took someone else.

As a human being,...off the field...I hope he gets better. But if there are reasons people have to not like him though, from what I've seen, they're 100% legit.

Lol meanwhile,....You railroad a choir boy Lance at every opportunity while he rides pine for one reason and one reason only: You're an Alabama fan.

Originally posted by random49er:
Shouldn't that be the end of this? That's really just that. My guy was Fields, but Kyle has infinitely more knowledge on the two than I do.

We'll see if it's the right choice or not. Mac looking like a legit QB doesn't change any of this. Again,...this stuff eerily reminds me of the 2019 Jimmy G overhype train. Come playoff time,...what did it all mean? Everyone's not Tom Brady or Joe Montana when the going gets tough, so relax a little, lol. Don't put him in the Hall just yet.

I mean Mac's clearly a better player than Jimmy is, at least in that offense. I'm just saying though.

Guy who throws for 198 and has a record of 6-4 is better than guy who throws for 300+ routinely and is 27-12.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by random49er:
Shouldn't that be the end of this? That's really just that. My guy was Fields, but Kyle has infinitely more knowledge on the two than I do.

We'll see if it's the right choice or not. Mac looking like a legit QB doesn't change any of this. Again,...this stuff eerily reminds me of the 2019 Jimmy G overhype train. Come playoff time,...what did it all mean? Everyone's not Tom Brady or Joe Montana when the going gets tough, so relax a little, lol. Don't put him in the Hall just yet.

I mean Mac's clearly a better player than Jimmy is, at least in that offense. I'm just saying though.

Guy who throws for 198 and has a record of 6-4 is better than guy who throws for 300+ routinely and is 27-12.

I call it as I see it. He's looked to me like a more competent QB than Jimmy ever has. Why so offended, though? Jimmy was a late switch to the position to begin with, IIRC.

p.s.,...Jimmy routinely throws for 300?

Not counting 2021,...Jimmy's last 300 yard game was week 13 of 2019. Yes, that includes the playoff run. I wouldn't call that routine. Jimmy's not a yardage guy so it's a surprising thing that some want to make this his new calling card due to a couple consecutive games.

I reckon Mac will win a SB before Shanny.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I guess we were watching a different game.

Patirots are running the same offense they've run for decades and people are just looking for any reason to nitpick Jones. He's been an outstanding for a rookie passer and they appear to be doing everything possible to develop him the right way.

Rookie of the Year if you ask me. I mean it's not like he's gaining most of his pass yards playing catch up or padding his stats in blowout losses like Justin Herbert did in his rookie year.

Nah, it's Najee pretty easily. 4th in total yards from scrimmage as a rookie.

Super Bowl.

I see Super Bowl in his future.

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