Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by eastie:
Wasn't it the consensus that Mac was the most ready to play in the NFL QB in the draft? He was the one that was ready to play now, but was also the one already at his ceiling? Why is his play so far a surprise to anybody?

It was a concensus that Mac was a fat, noodle armed QB that would get exposed without all that Bama talent.

So far, he's looking pretty decent for a rookie QB. I'm sure it has to be surprising to some lol

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by eastie:
Wasn't it the consensus that Mac was the most ready to play in the NFL QB in the draft? He was the one that was ready to play now, but was also the one already at his ceiling? Why is his play so far a surprise to anybody?

It was a concensus that Mac was a fat, noodle armed QB that would get exposed without all that Bama talent.

So far, he's looking pretty decent for a rookie QB. I'm sure it has to be surprising to some lol

When I said "consensus" I wasn't referring to the posters in here, I was thinking of the media football folk that scout players for a living. The guy was destroyed in here, but the national media wasn't trying to bury him before he even played a game, like this group did and still does.

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by eastie:
Wasn't it the consensus that Mac was the most ready to play in the NFL QB in the draft? He was the one that was ready to play now, but was also the one already at his ceiling? Why is his play so far a surprise to anybody?

It was a concensus that Mac was a fat, noodle armed QB that would get exposed without all that Bama talent.

So far, he's looking pretty decent for a rookie QB. I'm sure it has to be surprising to some lol

When I said "consensus" I wasn't referring to the posters in here, I was thinking of the media football folk that scout players for a living. The guy was destroyed in here, but the national media wasn't trying to bury him before he even played a game, like this group did and still does.

Gotcha. In that case, I completely agree.

Even the honeybadger is laughing at you Mac haters.

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/chiefs-star-takes-aim-patriots-qb-mac-jones-critics-series-tweets

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
It was a concensus that Mac was a fat, noodle armed QB that would get exposed without all that Bama talent.

So far, he's looking pretty decent for a rookie QB. I'm sure it has to be surprising to some lol

Nvm. Took you out of context.

Originally posted by krizay:

#Patriots QB Mac Jones taking out screen passes vs. Cleveland:

13-16
135 yards
8.4 pass YPA
3 TDs
3 big-time throws
10.9 air yards per attempt
93.6 @PFF grade

— Evan Lazar (@ezlazar) November 15, 2021

Patriots QB Brian Hoyer taking out screen passes vs. Cleveland:

3-3
85 yards
28.3 pass YPA
1 TD
1 big-time throw
12 air yards per attempt

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Patriots QB Brian Hoyer taking out screen passes vs. Cleveland:

3-3
85 yards
28.3 pass YPA
1 TD
1 big-time throw
12 air yards per attempt

3/3 in garbage time. What a compelling case you laid out here.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Patriots QB Brian Hoyer taking out screen passes vs. Cleveland:

3-3
85 yards
28.3 pass YPA
1 TD
1 big-time throw
12 air yards per attempt

3/3 in garbage time. What a compelling case you laid out here.

Also, I will NEVER take anyone seriously when the use bigbtime throw and air yards as a stat

Originally posted by tjd808185:
3/3 in garbage time. What a compelling case you laid out here.

I was watching with my buddy who is a Brown's fan and he actually mocked Brain Hoyer. "cool, you can compete passes versus our backups in garbage time"

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Patriots QB Brian Hoyer taking out screen passes vs. Cleveland:

3-3
85 yards
28.3 pass YPA
1 TD
1 big-time throw
12 air yards per attempt

so what you're saying is that if mac Jones actually had to play in the 4th quarter he would of had over 280 yards and 4 TD's?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

All of this ⬇️ https://t.co/INo1Jsoze8

— Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) November 16, 2021

I don't know if Mac is the guy but this over-obsession with tools and measurables will end up biting teams in the ass at some point in the near future. You're going to have some of these project QB's with a rocket arm and tremendous speed that will turn out to be epic busts and you'll wind up with a dude that is slow as molasses, doesn't have the most impressive arm but will end up a perennial Pro Bowl QB for a decade+ because of what they have going on above the neck, the stuff you can't teach but people overlook anyways because it can't be measured with a stopwatch or a scale.

Here is my issue with this assessment:

"But what he has is the ability to make quick decisions and put the ball on people in a timely fashion that allows them to do what they do."

Yes, he absolutely makes quick decisions. Generally those decisions have been "Is the first read open? Yes. Throw it. No? Check it down." But he absolutely is not accurate when it comes to putting his receivers in position to get YAC. If you take away screens and dump-offs, his YAC is pretty damn low because his throws over the middle are often either low or too far in front or behind his guy.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Patriots QB Brian Hoyer taking out screen passes vs. Cleveland:

3-3
85 yards
28.3 pass YPA
1 TD
1 big-time throw
12 air yards per attempt

3/3 in garbage time. What a compelling case you laid out here.

Also, I will NEVER take anyone seriously when the use bigbtime throw and air yards as a stat

I was just copying the format from the pro-Mac tweet. But fwiw, I couldn't care less about being taken seriously by a poster that nobody takes seriously.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Here is my issue with this assessment:

"But what he has is the ability to make quick decisions and put the ball on people in a timely fashion that allows them to do what they do."

Yes, he absolutely makes quick decisions. Generally those decisions have been "Is the first read open? Yes. Throw it. No? Check it down." But he absolutely is not accurate when it comes to putting his receivers in position to get YAC. If you take away screens and dump-offs, his YAC is pretty damn low because his throws over the middle are often either low or too far in front or behind his guy.

LMAO! You and your caveats!

"If you take away all of his TD passes he has 0 TDs and 7 ints" "If you take away all of the balls that his receivers caught he has 0% completion percentage"

This guy here is the best part of the thread! Always bringing the lulz!