Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Low ceilings are a b***h.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I just want to see if the commentators who said we'd regret taking Mac Jones still believe the same. I think the Pats will be fine longterm, but we saw what we saw. Going to be interesting to see all of the rookie QBs in year 2, particularly Jones, Lance, and Fields because they went to the better teams.

I wanted nothing to do with Mac Jones in the draft, and nothing that I've seen at any point this season made me change my mind even a little.

Originally posted by 4ML:

Low ceilings are a b***h.

HA

Like I said last game, they figured out that defense and absolutely destroyed them (500 yards of offense and 7 straight TD's). Odd that Mac couldn't transcend his defense. "He rode his defense all year." ... LOL

It's almost like football is a team game. Funny how Herbert couldn't transcend his defense either. Or Mahomes in the Superbowl or early this year when his OL and pass protection crapped the bed. They're now #1 and back to winning. Odd. Or how Brady got whipped when he lost a player or two at the skill positions this year.

Bills are rolling AND their running game was stellar...remember when fans used his running game as an excuse for why Allen didn't win? No mas.

The other Bill has a lot of work to do if he ever wants to win that division again. Mac was rendered futile in this game before it even started. Bourne, their running game nor Mac...no chance in this one with that defensive performance.

I can't wait to see what Bill does now.

PS: Allen was a machine! Look out Mahomes and Burrow! AFC has some dynamic offensives.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'll just leave this here

Imagine watching what Josh Allen is doing if you have a 'limited' quarterback.

Even a really good one.

Just opens up this whole other world of play when elite tools meets elite game.

— Sam Monson (@PFF_Sam) January 16, 2022

This is precisely why the Rams flipped Jared Goff out for Matthew Stafford, and why the Niners dealt up for Trey Lance. The Mahomes-ization of the NFL—teams looking at the next 10 years vs. Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, etc. https://t.co/7nD4WxVQnV

— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) January 16, 2022

LOL. Goff IS Stafford. Stafford IS Goff.

His overall point is correct though.

Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL. Goff IS Stafford. Stafford IS Goff.

His overall point is correct though.

Stafford clearly is beat up and going a little past his prime,...but still a better QB than Goff ever was or will be.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Like I said last game, they figured out that defense and absolutely destroyed them (500 yards of offense and 7 straight TD's). Odd that Mac couldn't transcend his defense. "He rode his defense all year." ... LOL

It's almost like football is a team game. Funny how Herbert couldn't transcend his defense either. Or Mahomes in the Superbowl or early this year when his OL and pass protection crapped the bed. They're now #1 and back to winning. Odd. Or how Brady got whipped when he lost a player or two at the skill positions this year.

Bills are rolling AND their running game was stellar...remember when fans used his running game as an excuse for why Allen didn't win? No mas.

The other Bill has a lot of work to do if he ever wants to win that division again. Mac was rendered futile in this game before it even started. Bourne, their running game nor Mac...no chance in this one with that defensive performance.

I can't wait to see what Bill does now.

PS: Allen was a machine! Look out Mahomes and Burrow! AFC has some dynamic offensives.

Odd that he couldn't get 1st downs and turned the ball over multiple times when they couldn't run the ball & the D couldn't put him in favorable scenarios….been saying it all yr with him.

Mac is a game manager…he's limited end of the day. He like Jimmy needs a lot to go right around him to make s**t go. He got put in amazing situations (against subpar teams mostly) because of that D. Yes he's a rookie and without a doubt can improve (how much is debatable) BUT people in here were riding his nuts this yr like he was some stud QB with unlimited potential. Some completely disagreed with that for months.

This team doesn't want Jimmy 2.0, they want the possibility of having Josh Allen. This league is all about star QBs. Go take your shot on a kid who at the very least has those traits to begin with. You want game manger, go get Mills in the 2nd rd.

As far as the Bills, that running game has never been good (for years). He is the damn running game lol. He's just f**king good at being a QB and has ALL the tools in the tool belt. Only time Jones is beating the Bills is when he throws the ball 3 times because of a hurricane lol.

As long as the Bills have Allen they got a chance against anyone…I wouldn't want to play that team.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Like I said last game, they figured out that defense (1) and absolutely destroyed them (500 yards of offense and 7 straight TD's). Odd that Mac couldn't transcend his defense. "He rode his defense all year." ... LOL

It's almost like football is a team game (2). Funny how Herbert couldn't transcend his defense either (3). Or Mahomes in the Superbowl or early this year when his OL and pass protection crapped the bed (4). They're now #1 and back to winning. Odd. Or how Brady got whipped when he lost a player or two (5) at the skill positions this year.

Bills are rolling (6) AND their running game was stellar (7)...remember when fans used his running game as an excuse for why Allen didn't win (8)? No mas.

The other Bill has a lot of work to do if he ever wants to win that division again (9). Mac was rendered futile in this game before it even started (10). Bourne (11), their running game (12) nor Mac...no chance in this one with that defensive performance (13).

I can't wait to see what Bill does now.

PS: Allen was a machine (14)! Look out Mahomes and Burrow! AFC has some dynamic offensives.

Just wanted to count the MacScuses ,....lol. Got a lil surprised when we got to 5 but kept going anyway since you kept going. You left out his injury (your favorite) (15) and the "rookie wall"(16) you mentioned before the game.

The only issue some of us have is that when they were winning games, we weren't hearing all of this. All we were hearing is how great he is or is going to be. Funny how that works where all this stuff comes about but only when he doesn't perform well, huh?

p.s. Good to see you call Burrow his full name instead of Burrowscuses like a few weeks ago when we were simply trying to tell you Cincy has a better QB. HA!!

But yea,...looks like we got our full count of offseason MacScuses to take us into next season.

Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL. Goff IS Stafford. Stafford IS Goff.

His overall point is correct though.

Not true, the point is they moved off a limited QB for a guy that can make every damn throw under the sun. Stafford's issue is he's just a gunslinger and he gave up all his good years playing for one of the worst franchises in football.

Goff on that same lion's team won 3 games with 19/8 TD/INT. Stafford in LA threw 41/17 and won 12 games. Matt literally doubled Goff's TD number from last yr lol

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Like I said last game, they figured out that defense and absolutely destroyed them (500 yards of offense and 7 straight TD's). Odd that Mac couldn't transcend his defense. "He rode his defense all year." ... LOL

It's almost like football is a team game. Funny how Herbert couldn't transcend his defense either. Or Mahomes in the Superbowl or early this year when his OL and pass protection crapped the bed. They're now #1 and back to winning. Odd. Or how Brady got whipped when he lost a player or two at the skill positions this year.

Bills are rolling AND their running game was stellar...remember when fans used his running game as an excuse for why Allen didn't win? No mas.

The other Bill has a lot of work to do if he ever wants to win that division again. Mac was rendered futile in this game before it even started. Bourne, their running game nor Mac...no chance in this one with that defensive performance.

I can't wait to see what Bill does now.

PS: Allen was a machine! Look out Mahomes and Burrow! AFC has some dynamic offensives.

Odd that he couldn't get 1st downs and turned the ball over multiple times when they couldn't run the ball & the D couldn't put him in favorable scenarios….been saying it all yr with him.

Mac is a game manager…he's limited end of the day. He like Jimmy needs a lot to go right around him to make s**t go. He got put in amazing situations (against subpar teams mostly) because of that D. Yes he's a rookie and without a doubt can improve (how much is debatable) BUT people in here were riding his nuts this yr like he was some stud QB with unlimited potential. Some completely disagreed with that for months.

This team doesn't want Jimmy 2.0, they want the possibility of having Josh Allen. This league is all about star QBs. Go take your shot on a kid who at the very least has those traits to begin with. You want game manger, go get Mills in the 2nd rd.

As far as the Bills, that running game has never been good (for years). He is the damn running game lol. He's just f**king good at being a QB and has ALL the tools in the tool belt. Only time Jones is beating the Bills is when he throws the ball 3 times because of a hurricane lol.

As long as the Bills have Allen they got a chance against anyone…I wouldn't want to play that team.

Are you SERIOUSLY trying to put that loss on Mac???



Sorry, that's just ludicrous.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL. Goff IS Stafford. Stafford IS Goff.

His overall point is correct though.

Not true, the point is they moved off a limited QB for a guy that can make every damn throw under the sun. Stafford's issue is he's just a gunslinger and he gave up all his good years playing for one of the worst franchises in football.

Goff on that same lion's team won 3 games with 19/8 TD/INT. Stafford in LA threw 41/17 and won 12 games. Matt literally doubled Goff's TD number from last yr lol

Please. Record and division results are identical. Stafford is just a stat QB that you fell for. He's OK and sucks when it matters most. Just like Goff.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Are you SERIOUSLY trying to put that loss on Mac???



Sorry, that's just ludicrous.

1) Ignores the reality of how a couple picks and the 3 points until garbage time didn't help

2) Ignores the initial overall point to seek out more athletic, more-able, more-mobile QBs like Josh Allen to build the team around for moments just like yesterday. Simply something others have said all along regarding Mac, but that special place you have in your heart for stationary QBs can't quite get you to address the issue.

Love the intentional deflection. This is going to be fun.

Putting that loss on Max is like putting the Chargers missing the playoffs on Herbert

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Putting that loss on Max is like putting the Chargers missing the playoffs on Herbert

1) Not simply about who won and who loss. Big time game, what was the contribution before garbage time? Not much.

2) The athletic specimen of a QB on the other side that we've all hammered home from the beginning regarding not wanting Jimmy 2.0? Yea,...that part!

After such a pathetic beating, I can understand your avoidance of the true topic at hand, though. It's been a tough week for you.

The next Tom Brady lol

his 2nd half the season is what I expected . He wowed me the 1st half .