Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
literally what i've been saying. he needs the running game and defense to be elite at all times. especially in bad weather games. he will be a kirk cousings/matt ryan type of pro.

Which I can agree with. I truly believe Kirk is his floor.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
literally what i've been saying. he needs the running game and defense to be elite at all times. especially in bad weather games. he will be a kirk cousings/matt ryan type of pro.

Which I can agree with. I truly believe Kirk is his floor.

And his ceiling is obviously Lamar / Pat.

I don't see him ever being able to compete with Josh Allen. He will need his team to have a much better supporting cast than the Bills have for Josh Allen.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
I don't see him ever being able to compete with Josh Allen. He will need his team to have a much better supporting cast than the Bills have for Josh Allen.

To be fair I don't think any other QB besides Mahomes could. He is only 25... He will win a superbowl one day.

As for Mac I think he will be just fine. Not a top 5 QB but I think with this coaching staff he will be a top 12 QB imo.

Originally posted by krizay:
Mac Jones: 75.8 QBR, 17 points scored vs #1 defense. Kendrick Bourne #1 target

Aaron Rodgers 91.9 QBR, 10 points scored vs #9 defense. Devante Adams #1 target

Dak Prescott 69.3 QBR, 17 points scored vs #9 defense. Cooper and Lamb top targets

Kyler Murray 40.9 QBR, 11 points scored vs #15 defense. Kirk #1 target

Ryan Tannehill: 66.7 QBR, 16 points scored vs #17 defense. AJ Brown & Julio Jones top targets

Derek Carr: 69.2 QBR, 18 points scored vs #17 defense. Darren Waller and Refrow top targets

Jalen Hurts: 60.0 QBR, 16 points scored vs #5 defense

The rookie QB versus the top defense with less supporting cast more than held his own vs Buffalo and looks at the very least comparable to these other one and done QBs.

Passer rating and QBR are not the same thing.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
literally what i've been saying. he needs the running game and defense to be elite at all times. especially in bad weather games. he will be a kirk cousings/matt ryan type of pro.

Which I can agree with. I truly believe Kirk is his floor.

Cousins is his ceiling, his floor is Andy Dalton.

Pats would be extremely lucky if he reached Kirk level. That's not an insult, I think Kirk is a really good QB

Almost like he needs to be surrounded by a good running game, and defense. Sound familiar? 🤔

Originally posted by gold49digger:
To be fair I don't think any other QB besides Mahomes could. He is only 25... He will win a superbowl one day.

As for Mac I think he will be just fine. Not a top 5 QB but I think with this coaching staff he will be a top 12 QB imo.

So basically Kirk Cousins. What most have been saying before the Niners even made their pick and why we were freaking out at the rumors of Mac being the pick at 3. He's fine at 15 if you didn't give up anything to move up to there. Pats fans probally won't admit this but if they traded multiple 1st RD picks to move up 3 and took Mac Jones they would have been just as upset as most Niner fans would have been if we took him at 3. But having him fall into your lap at 15, not having to give up anything to get him, They don't have much to lose.

Originally posted by BMoore56:
Almost like he needs to be surrounded by a good running game, and defense. Sound familiar? 🤔

Yeah Brady needed a good team to support him as a young QB.

Originally posted by jcs:
Yeah Brady needed a good team to support him as a young QB.

He's certainly no Tom Brady.

Originally posted by 4ML:

Low ceilings are a b***h.

Not for the guy that gets to help her down...

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by jcs:
Yeah Brady needed a good team to support him as a young QB.

He's certainly no Tom Brady.

He's a rookie we don't know what he's going to be but to claim he's hit his ceiling at 23 is preposterous after having one of the better QB rookie seasons in recent history.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by jcs:
Yeah Brady needed a good team to support him as a young QB.

He's certainly no Tom Brady.

He's a rookie we don't know what he's going to be but to claim he's hit his ceiling at 23 is preposterous after having one of the better QB rookie seasons in recent history.

His season was pretty meh.