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- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
So now they will have to learn a new style offense with O brien ?
I don't know but it can't be worse than the slow motion trainwreck that happened with two guys that were completely in over their heads as coaches. At least BoB is a legit offensive mind. Mac better start loosening up his arm, BoB loves to fling it.
The Patriots intended to emphasize the outside zone runs already present in their playbook and install play-action passes from McVay's offense, among other motions and formations.The results were disastrous. Over time, the staff tossed most of the play-action passes. That pivot, while necessary, further alarmed those who felt concerned about reduced volume of plays.
Months later, members of the organization sensed Belichick's offensive staff suffered from the same lack of cohesion players would display on Sundays. Soon enough, they knew they were right.
"I've never seen anything like it," one source said.
"It was disheveled," another source said. "They were always scrambling to get things done."
Over time, the staff tossed most of the play-action passes. That pivot, while necessary, further alarmed those who felt concerned about reduced volume of plays. One source described a typical training camp practice under McDaniels involving the installation of 25 pages worth of fresh run plays, another 25 of passing plays and upwards of 40 pages for the offensive line learning protection schemes.
Under Patricia and Judge? Those numbers were cut by roughly half.
Later in the season, the Patriots executed more man-blocked runs featuring a pulling guard, but they hadn't repped the corresponding play-action protections enough to call them in games. This limited their opportunities to exploit the most basic and consistent cheat code in offensive football. By the time they ramped up their play-action usage, Jones went 9-for-9 for 92 yards and a touchdown off play fakes in the regular-season finale at Buffalo.
- krizay
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I was at #Patriots training camp for two full days this summer.
— Matt Cannata (@CannataPFN) January 28, 2023
I've heard and seen more instruction from Bill O'Brien in 15 minutes here at the Shrine Bowl than I did from Patricia/Judge in those two days.
- random49er
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Originally posted by krizay:
I was at #Patriots training camp for two full days this summer.
— Matt Cannata (@CannataPFN) January 28, 2023
I've heard and seen more instruction from Bill O'Brien in 15 minutes here at the Shrine Bowl than I did from Patricia/Judge in those two days.
Fingers crossed?
- theduke85
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:Remember that Bill O'Brien was Mac Jones' OC and QB Coach at Bama. In 2020 they had an offense that is historically-regarded.
So now they will have to learn a new style offense with O brien ?
- 9ers4eva
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Originally posted by theduke85:
Remember that Bill O'Brien was Mac Jones' OC and QB Coach at Bama. In 2020 they had an offense that is historically-regarded.
Will he have first round talents at every position on offense next year?
Bama fans were ecstatic to see him go
- frenchmov
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Originally posted by krizay:
I was at #Patriots training camp for two full days this summer.
— Matt Cannata (@CannataPFN) January 28, 2023
I've heard and seen more instruction from Bill O'Brien in 15 minutes here at the Shrine Bowl than I did from Patricia/Judge in those two days.
This is a great hire and will get Mac back in the right direction
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Will he have first round talents at every position on offense next year?
Bama fans were ecstatic to see him go
BoB is a good coach, awful GM. He had a winning record as HC every year but two, including the one where he was fired. Also unlike Patricia and Judge, he has an extensive history of coaching offense. I could see him being a HC candidate again in a few years if he does well.
- NYniner85
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Report: #Patriots coaches were instructed not to be too hard on QB Mac Jones in an effort to protect him from being too critical of himself.
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) February 28, 2023
There was an issue in 2021 with Jones struggling after getting yelled at, source told @McKennAnalysishttps://t.co/n3i1Mu3KI7. pic.twitter.com/ybilBRhENF
Niner fans would have eaten this kid alive.
- Jcool
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Will he have first round talents at every position on offense next year?
Bama fans were ecstatic to see him go
BoB is a good coach, awful GM. He had a winning record as HC every year but two, including the one where he was fired. Also unlike Patricia and Judge, he has an extensive history of coaching offense. I could see him being a HC candidate again in a few years if he does well.
good is a stretch.
- Waterbear
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
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Report: #Patriots coaches were instructed not to be too hard on QB Mac Jones in an effort to protect him from being too critical of himself.
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) February 28, 2023
There was an issue in 2021 with Jones struggling after getting yelled at, source told @McKennAnalysishttps://t.co/n3i1Mu3KI7. pic.twitter.com/ybilBRhENF
Niner fans would have eaten this kid alive.
Yup.
- 9ers4eva
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
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Report: #Patriots coaches were instructed not to be too hard on QB Mac Jones in an effort to protect him from being too critical of himself.
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) February 28, 2023
There was an issue in 2021 with Jones struggling after getting yelled at, source told @McKennAnalysishttps://t.co/n3i1Mu3KI7. pic.twitter.com/ybilBRhENF
Niner fans would have eaten this kid alive.
Hell Shanahan would've eaten him alive
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:not if mckorkle takes his knee out first
Originally posted by NYniner85:
🥴🥴
Report: #Patriots coaches were instructed not to be too hard on QB Mac Jones in an effort to protect him from being too critical of himself.
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) February 28, 2023
There was an issue in 2021 with Jones struggling after getting yelled at, source told @McKennAnalysishttps://t.co/n3i1Mu3KI7. pic.twitter.com/ybilBRhENF
Niner fans would have eaten this kid alive.
Hell Shanahan would've eaten him alive
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- NYniner85
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Per source, Bill Belichick has shopped Mac Jones this offseason. Could a trade still happen? https://t.co/z3cUkJQwtE
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) April 4, 2023
well well well