Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by Bloodless:
Tom Brady's old slow ass is still winning super bowls. In fact, he has more rings than all the mobile QBs currently in the NFL combined. Mobile QBs are here to stay for sure but there will always be a place in the NFL for strictly pocket QBs. There are great, decent, and bad mobile QBs. Just like there are great, decent, and bad Strictly pocket passers. I don't care what style they are, just that they are a great QB. I think Mac Jones has a lot of the traits that the special pocket QBs possess. That is just my opinion though.

100% this. Every few years mobile qbs become en vogue until we are reminded that pocket passing is still king.

He has Patriots all over him if they can't get Jimmy, Belichick is going to trade up

Webzone: Ewww, Mac Jones reminds me of Andy Dalton.
49ers: We want Andy Dalton.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Webzone: Ewww, Mac Jones reminds me of Andy Dalton.
49ers: We want Andy Dalton.

Oh the irony!

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Webzone: Ewww, Mac Jones reminds me of Andy Dalton.
49ers: We want Andy Dalton.

Oh the irony!

Spending a top 15 first round pick on Andy Dalton clone.
Signing Andy Dalton to play backup.
lol

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Webzone: Ewww, Mac Jones reminds me of Andy Dalton.
49ers: We want Andy Dalton.

Oh the irony!

It's simple.

One has a soul and one doesn't.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Webzone: Ewww, Mac Jones reminds me of Andy Dalton.
49ers: We want Andy Dalton.

Oh the irony!

It's simple.

One has a soul and one doesn't.

Ha! Well if Mac Jones is Matt Ryan it's not going to matter, I'm just not sure the arm strength is there to threaten all areas of the field.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Webzone: Ewww, Mac Jones reminds me of Andy Dalton.
49ers: We want Andy Dalton.

Oh the irony!

It's simple.

One has a soul and one doesn't.

Ha! Well if Mac Jones is Matt Ryan it's not going to matter, I'm just not sure the arm strength is there to threaten all areas of the field.

The only place were his arm strength doesn't stick out, is if he has to throw it 15-20 yards between two defenders and put some heat on it. That he can't really do. But everything else, including throwing a great deep ball, is there. You don't need to have a cannon to be a great QB.

You watch the way he times his throws compared to Fields, its a huge difference. If he really is that smart QB that processes things at an elite level, that is so much more important than a great arm. Plenty of QBs with a great arm, but few of them can process the game like Manning could or Brady or Joe or Brees...That talent is far less common.

Mac takes the page count lead

All he does is win

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Webzone: Ewww, Mac Jones reminds me of Andy Dalton.
49ers: We want Andy Dalton.

Oh the irony!

It's simple.

One has a soul and one doesn't.

Ha! Well if Mac Jones is Matt Ryan it's not going to matter, I'm just not sure the arm strength is there to threaten all areas of the field.

The only place were his arm strength doesn't stick out, is if he has to throw it 15-20 yards between two defenders and put some heat on it. That he can't really do. But everything else, including throwing a great deep ball, is there. You don't need to have a cannon to be a great QB.

You watch the way he times his throws compared to Fields, its a huge difference. If he really is that smart QB that processes things at an elite level, that is so much more important than a great arm. Plenty of QBs with a great arm, but few of them can process the game like Manning could or Brady or Joe or Brees...That talent is far less common.

What I watch when I see Fields is an elite thrower and post snap decision maker, playing in an average offense, with poor pre snap awareness. I think his flaws are correctable.

I just can't understand in what world anyone thinks these two compare as prospects.

When I watch Mac I see someone who lit it up in college but those throws you're talking about that he struggles with take away parts of the field in the NFL.

I split the field into 9, short, mid and deep, L, R and middle. I'm not keen on removing two or three of those areas when I have guys that can access it all.

Jones is way better than Dalton.

I actually think is THIS offense Jones' ceiling is quite high. And he is the most realistic option for us at #12.

We must take a QB at #12 unless 5 QBs go top 11. Unless Shanahan isn't high on any of those. Then fine go another direction. But if he likes Jones we have to take him. Do people not remember last year? When Jimmy went down season was done. Now if he goes down we might actually get BETTER and have reason for optimism if we draft one of the top 5 QBs in this class.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Webzone: Ewww, Mac Jones reminds me of Andy Dalton.
49ers: We want Andy Dalton.

Oh the irony!

It's simple.

One has a soul and one doesn't.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Webzone: Ewww, Mac Jones reminds me of Andy Dalton.
49ers: We want Andy Dalton.

Oh the irony!

It's simple.

One has a soul and one doesn't.

Ha! Well if Mac Jones is Matt Ryan it's not going to matter, I'm just not sure the arm strength is there to threaten all areas of the field.

The only place were his arm strength doesn't stick out, is if he has to throw it 15-20 yards between two defenders and put some heat on it. That he can't really do. But everything else, including throwing a great deep ball, is there. You don't need to have a cannon to be a great QB.

You watch the way he times his throws compared to Fields, its a huge difference. If he really is that smart QB that processes things at an elite level, that is so much more important than a great arm. Plenty of QBs with a great arm, but few of them can process the game like Manning could or Brady or Joe or Brees...That talent is far less common.

What I watch when I see Fields is an elite thrower and post snap decision maker, playing in an average offense, with poor pre snap awareness. I think his flaws are correctable.

I just can't understand in what world anyone thinks these two compare as prospects.

When I watch Mac I see someone who lit it up in college but those throws you're talking about that he struggles with take away parts of the field in the NFL.

I split the field into 9, short, mid and deep, L, R and middle. I'm not keen on removing two or three of those areas when I have guys that can access it all.

That's why Fields is going top 5 or 6 and Jones isn't.

But it should be noted: Garoppolo has similar limitations, except Jones has better deep accuracy. So it's an upgrade, which IMHO makes it a good pick. The odds of Fields being there at 12 are minuscule.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Webzone: Ewww, Mac Jones reminds me of Andy Dalton.
49ers: We want Andy Dalton.

Oh the irony!

It's simple.

One has a soul and one doesn't.

Ha! Well if Mac Jones is Matt Ryan it's not going to matter, I'm just not sure the arm strength is there to threaten all areas of the field.

The only place were his arm strength doesn't stick out, is if he has to throw it 15-20 yards between two defenders and put some heat on it. That he can't really do. But everything else, including throwing a great deep ball, is there. You don't need to have a cannon to be a great QB.

You watch the way he times his throws compared to Fields, its a huge difference. If he really is that smart QB that processes things at an elite level, that is so much more important than a great arm. Plenty of QBs with a great arm, but few of them can process the game like Manning could or Brady or Joe or Brees...That talent is far less common.

What I watch when I see Fields is an elite thrower and post snap decision maker, playing in an average offense, with poor pre snap awareness. I think his flaws are correctable.

I just can't understand in what world anyone thinks these two compare as prospects.

When I watch Mac I see someone who lit it up in college but those throws you're talking about that he struggles with take away parts of the field in the NFL.

I split the field into 9, short, mid and deep, L, R and middle. I'm not keen on removing two or three of those areas when I have guys that can access it all.

That's why Fields is going top 5 or 6 and Jones isn't.

But it should be noted: Garoppolo has similar limitations, except Jones has better deep accuracy. So it's an upgrade, which IMHO makes it a good pick. The odds of Fields being there at 12 are minuscule.

Oh I agree with you, just against this negative media campaign that has people believing Mac Jones is a better prospect, I'm fine with anyone who has come up with that opinion themselves.

I'd much rather trade up for Fields than wait for Mac.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Oh I agree with you, just against this negative media campaign that has people believing Mac Jones is a better prospect, I'm fine with anyone who has come up with that opinion themselves.

I'd much rather trade up for Fields than wait for Mac.

agreed and they might have to move up for either one.