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Mar 26, 2021 at 11:50 PM
- ninerFate
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IMO as much as I understand Jones being a perfect "fit", if you're trading that much for a trade like this it has to be more than just the right fit. You very much have to consider who will higher potential/ceiling as well.
Mar 27, 2021 at 1:22 AM
- 49ers808
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Originally posted by Nastastical:
The 2 guys that fit Shanahan's system the best are Zach Wilson and Mac Jones. Today the 49ers guaranteed that they'll get one of them. If Shanny hits us with a curveball and selects Fields or Lance, I'm still going to give him my full support because it means he's continuing to evolve as an offensive mastermind. This team has earned our trust.
Wilson yes, disagree on Jones. He played almost exclusively from the gun and ran RPOS. Fields and Lance played under center a lot and ran the bootleg often.
On what planet would you want Mac Jones running a PA Boot offense?!
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) March 26, 2021
RPO Gun/Heavy at Alabama, not sure I think SF is right fit even though both are run-first schemes https://t.co/Xyl7alJzhR
Mar 27, 2021 at 2:51 AM
- hondakillerzx
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If we take Jones, Kyle and John are definitely controlling their fate and deserve to be canned. Take someone who's a kirk cousins clone when u have dudes with Mahomes, Watson, Jackson, Murray, Wilson etc terrorizing the league lately. I don't think Lynch will go for it if it's Jones anyway. He's still mad he whiffed on Mahomes and Watson and he didn't trade all that draft capital to get a Kirk Cousins type
Mar 27, 2021 at 3:05 AM
- DaBeegDeek
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Jones wont be playing QB here.
Mar 27, 2021 at 3:23 AM
- Buchy
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I was happy with Jones at 12 or moving up a bit.
We could have moved up to pick at 6 for Jones, going to number 3 is too rich for him, he'd be available between 5 and 10. I don't think it's Jones.
We could have moved up to pick at 6 for Jones, going to number 3 is too rich for him, he'd be available between 5 and 10. I don't think it's Jones.
Mar 27, 2021 at 5:07 AM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
If we take Jones, Kyle and John are definitely controlling their fate and deserve to be canned. Take someone who's a kirk cousins clone when u have dudes with Mahomes, Watson, Jackson, Murray, Wilson etc terrorizing the league lately. I don't think Lynch will go for it if it's Jones anyway. He's still mad he whiffed on Mahomes and Watson and he didn't trade all that draft capital to get a Kirk Cousins type
Agree, that's one good reason that they might *not* pick Mac Jones. The fact that they already have a Mac Jones type on the team in the name of Jimmy. It makes sense to pick a more dynamic QB, like a Mahomes 2.0 in this draft and he will take time to develop, no problem because Jimmy is still on the team with two years remaining on his contract.
The reason I think they might go with Mac Jones is that he's a scheme fit QB, and basically can run the offense like it is because he's so much like a pocket QB like Jimmy. They don't need to change the scheme much for him. Kyle's scheme definitely has to change if a mobile QB is back there, you do want to take advantage of the rookies Mobility if something happens to Jimmy and he has to step in for him.
I like Mac, but Trey and Justin offer much more of a coaching challenge to Kyle because of their dynamic high ceilings and explosive athleticism. (high risk, high reward). I think Kyle is ready for a new challenge. We shall see.
Mar 27, 2021 at 5:10 AM
- 5_Golden_Rings
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Since the pick is probably going to be Mac Jones:
Mar 27, 2021 at 5:12 AM
- 5_Golden_Rings
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
If we take Jones, Kyle and John are definitely controlling their fate and deserve to be canned. Take someone who's a kirk cousins clone when u have dudes with Mahomes, Watson, Jackson, Murray, Wilson etc terrorizing the league lately. I don't think Lynch will go for it if it's Jones anyway. He's still mad he whiffed on Mahomes and Watson and he didn't trade all that draft capital to get a Kirk Cousins type
Agree, that's one good reason that they might *not* pick Mac Jones. The fact that they already have a Mac Jones type on the team in the name of Jimmy. It makes sense to pick a more dynamic QB, like a Mahomes 2.0 in this draft and he will take time to develop, no problem because Jimmy is still on the team with two years remaining on his contract.
The reason I think they might go with Mac Jones is that he's a scheme fit QB, and basically can run the offense like it is because he's so much like a pocket QB like Jimmy. They don't need to change the scheme much for him. Kyle's scheme definitely has to change if a mobile QB is back there, you do want to take advantage of the rookies Mobility if something happens to Jimmy and he has to step in for him.
I like Mac, but Trey and Justin offer much more of a coaching challenge to Kyle because of their dynamic high ceilings and explosive athleticism. (high risk, high reward). I think Kyle is ready for a new challenge. We shall see.
I personally think it's more wishful thinking. I'd give it 90% odds that it's going to be Jones. The upper body torque, the release, the pocket presence, the accuracy, winning with his mind and not his athleticism, all these things scream Shanahan. And in fact, in today's NFL, this kind of QB is rare, which would explain why Shanahan rushed to throw away all those pics to move up.
And I do think it's overpaying. But this is who Shanahan is, and honestly, he'll do great in this system. He really is a system fit. As much as I'd love Wilson, he'll be gone, and while I do like Fields and Lance, neither one of them have that quick processing that Shanahan loves.
So we should all get used to Mac Jones.
Mar 27, 2021 at 5:15 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
Jones wont be playing QB here.
Nope, lock this b***h up lol
Mar 27, 2021 at 5:23 AM
- Rascal
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Thanks, but no thanks, bruh!
Mar 27, 2021 at 5:25 AM
- Cisco0623
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
Jones wont be playing QB here.
Nope, lock this b***h up lol
Exactly!
Mar 27, 2021 at 5:30 AM
- 5_Golden_Rings
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Best get used to it tbh
Mar 27, 2021 at 5:32 AM
- Rascal
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
Jones wont be playing QB here.
Nope, lock this b***h up lol
Exactly!
Damn right!
Send him to the Seahawks after Russell Wilson is traded.
The dude will get pancaked by Bosa!
Mar 27, 2021 at 5:38 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Nastastical:
The 2 guys that fit Shanahan's system the best are Zach Wilson and Mac Jones. Today the 49ers guaranteed that they'll get one of them. If Shanny hits us with a curveball and selects Fields or Lance, I'm still going to give him my full support because it means he's continuing to evolve as an offensive mastermind. This team has earned our trust.
Wilson yes, disagree on Jones. He played almost exclusively from the gun and ran RPOS. Fields and Lance played under center a lot and ran the bootleg often.
On what planet would you want Mac Jones running a PA Boot offense?!
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) March 26, 2021
RPO Gun/Heavy at Alabama, not sure I think SF is right fit even though both are run-first schemes https://t.co/Xyl7alJzhR
The other 3 all rock PA like Kyle wants...anyone thinking it's easy to play under center and turn your back is lying too.
Wilson, Fields, Lance all experienced operating from under center, turning back to defense. Efficient ball handling, burying fakes. Snaps head around. Can throw on run for full boot/sprint. Strong arms.
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) February 6, 2021
Trevor Lawrence and Mac Jones much more often in shotgun with the RPO game pic.twitter.com/94t98wBF40
Mar 27, 2021 at 5:38 AM
- 5_Golden_Rings
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Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
Jones wont be playing QB here.
Nope, lock this b***h up lol
Exactly!
Damn right!
Send him to the Seahawks after Russell Wilson is traded.
The dude will get pancaked by Bosa!
Lol you guys got to come to terms with this.
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