Mac Jones-QB-49ers

Perhaps they are checking on Mac Jones mobility, as mentioned in the breakdown below

I've seen a lot of comparisons to Kirk Cousins, and with all due respect, I have absolutely no idea what Mac Jones tape these people are watching. Last season, Cousins ranked fourth in the NFL with 62 dropbacks in boot-action with 61 attempts, completing 38 passes for 472 yards, four touchdowns, and two interceptions. In 2020, Mac Jones ranked 23rd in the NCAA with 23 boot-action dropbacks, completing 10 of 17 passes for 123 yards, one touchdown, and one interception.

As we've said, boot-action is a fundamental part of Shanahan's offense no matter where he is, and that's not what Jones does. He's a pocket passer. A great pocket passer, but as I wrote in my analysis of Jones back in February, "It also limits Jones' landing spots if he can't run boot; there's no way you wind up in a McVay/Shanahan/LaFleur offense if you can't. And if you can't effectively make plays on second-reaction throws… well, your real estate options just narrowed even further."

Originally posted by KiwiM:
The point another poster made about wanting to see Mac Jones in person to see what his athleticism is like makes total sense to me.

'Is this guy athletic enough?'.

That's something that going to a Pro Day in person will help answer.

Well at least in that case we can be assured that the answer will be a resounding no, but I'm not sure it'll stop them from drafting him. They've already traded up to #3 to draft Jones and now they're trying to convince themselves that he is the guy.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
It's not just about being mobile...it's just overall talent level. They're not on the same tier. I watched Lance's pro day vs Jones again (fresh eyes). It wasn't even close....anyone with two sets of eyes can see the talent level isn't the same. I'll bet it's the same for fields this week.

if you can't work with that high level talent and groom them then you shouldn't be a HC.

I'm 100000% behind everything you been saying in here NY. I just can't even comprehend it

No one should be on board with taking Jones at 3..let alone giving up 2 more 1sts on top of it.. unless they're just being trolls about the whole situation looking for a laugh.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Perhaps they are checking on Mac Jones mobility, as mentioned in the breakdown below

I've seen a lot of comparisons to Kirk Cousins, and with all due respect, I have absolutely no idea what Mac Jones tape these people are watching. Last season, Cousins ranked fourth in the NFL with 62 dropbacks in boot-action with 61 attempts, completing 38 passes for 472 yards, four touchdowns, and two interceptions. In 2020, Mac Jones ranked 23rd in the NCAA with 23 boot-action dropbacks, completing 10 of 17 passes for 123 yards, one touchdown, and one interception.

As we've said, boot-action is a fundamental part of Shanahan's offense no matter where he is, and that's not what Jones does. He's a pocket passer. A great pocket passer, but as I wrote in my analysis of Jones back in February, "It also limits Jones' landing spots if he can't run boot; there's no way you wind up in a McVay/Shanahan/LaFleur offense if you can't. And if you can't effectively make plays on second-reaction throws… well, your real estate options just narrowed even further."

What mobility do you get from a pro day with no defenders actually trying to tackle you? Nah I guess it's due diligence but it's gross to think about

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Well at least in that case we can be assured that the answer will be a resounding no, but I'm not sure it'll stop them from drafting him. They've already traded up to #3 to draft Jones and now they're trying to convince themselves that he is the guy.

This is complete speculation. You have no idea what they are thinking.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
It's not just about being mobile...it's just overall talent level. They're not on the same tier. I watched Lance's pro day vs Jones again (fresh eyes). It wasn't even close....anyone with two sets of eyes can see the talent level isn't the same. I'll bet it's the same for fields this week.

if you can't work with that high level talent and groom them then you shouldn't be a HC.

I'm 100000% behind everything you been saying in here NY. I just can't even comprehend it

No one should be on board with taking Jones at 3..let alone giving up 2 more 1sts on top of it.. unless they're just being trolls about the whole situation looking for a laugh.

Or just can't think for themselves and believe the talking heads

jones lol

Originally posted by KiwiM:
The point another poster made about wanting to see Mac Jones in person to see what his athleticism is like makes total sense to me.

'Is this guy athletic enough?'.

That's something that going to a Pro Day in person will help answer.

How does running around with no one trying to tackle you show athleticism on a pro day workout? Makes no sense.

Originally posted by KiwiM:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Well at least in that case we can be assured that the answer will be a resounding no, but I'm not sure it'll stop them from drafting him. They've already traded up to #3 to draft Jones and now they're trying to convince themselves that he is the guy.

This is complete speculation. You have no idea what they are thinking.

True, I don't know what they're thinking, but the evidence is pointing to them not having a sensical plan. You don't trade what we traded without knowing with 90% certainty who you're trading for.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
How does running around with no one trying to tackle you show athleticism on a pro day workout? Makes no sense.

You right now:



There's still over three weeks left until the draft At this point any of these QB's are still in play, it just depends on what the scouts and coaching staff are prioritizing but as I said in the thread in NT, I'm cool with whoever the 49ers pick. Its not my job on the line, its theirs. If they hit a homerun and grab a franchise QB, then it won't matter one damn bit how anyone felt about it. In the end that is all I'm hoping for, get a QB that can be great.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
How does running around with no one trying to tackle you show athleticism on a pro day workout? Makes no sense.

There are also some question marks over if his arm is strong enough (no such question marks with Fields or Lance). There's another reason.

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Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Perhaps they are checking on Mac Jones mobility, as mentioned in the breakdown below

I've seen a lot of comparisons to Kirk Cousins, and with all due respect, I have absolutely no idea what Mac Jones tape these people are watching. Last season, Cousins ranked fourth in the NFL with 62 dropbacks in boot-action with 61 attempts, completing 38 passes for 472 yards, four touchdowns, and two interceptions. In 2020, Mac Jones ranked 23rd in the NCAA with 23 boot-action dropbacks, completing 10 of 17 passes for 123 yards, one touchdown, and one interception.

As we've said, boot-action is a fundamental part of Shanahan's offense no matter where he is, and that's not what Jones does. He's a pocket passer. A great pocket passer, but as I wrote in my analysis of Jones back in February, "It also limits Jones' landing spots if he can't run boot; there's no way you wind up in a McVay/Shanahan/LaFleur offense if you can't. And if you can't effectively make plays on second-reaction throws… well, your real estate options just narrowed even further."

what's the source on this?

23rd in the NCAA doesn't sound bad to me, it shows he's capable

accuracy, going through reads, pocket presence are what's important, and I'm sure Mac Jones can root a good boot with some more practice

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Perhaps they are checking on Mac Jones mobility, as mentioned in the breakdown below

I've seen a lot of comparisons to Kirk Cousins, and with all due respect, I have absolutely no idea what Mac Jones tape these people are watching. Last season, Cousins ranked fourth in the NFL with 62 dropbacks in boot-action with 61 attempts, completing 38 passes for 472 yards, four touchdowns, and two interceptions. In 2020, Mac Jones ranked 23rd in the NCAA with 23 boot-action dropbacks, completing 10 of 17 passes for 123 yards, one touchdown, and one interception.

As we've said, boot-action is a fundamental part of Shanahan's offense no matter where he is, and that's not what Jones does. He's a pocket passer. A great pocket passer, but as I wrote in my analysis of Jones back in February, "It also limits Jones' landing spots if he can't run boot; there's no way you wind up in a McVay/Shanahan/LaFleur offense if you can't. And if you can't effectively make plays on second-reaction throws… well, your real estate options just narrowed even further."

Guess who ran a lot of boot action? Lance.

With Mac's skill set, i can see the Pats wanting him more than Shanny would.

Look at it like this. If they like Fields more then Wilson. They could use Mac as a smokescreen. Unless this is the case then fields is not there guy.

If They liked Lance more they would be going to Fields pro day as fields is more likely to have interest ahead of them then Mac.( so it is pretty safe to assume Lance is not there guy.)

Wilson we have no clue where we are currently ranking him.

If Mac is the guy then going to his pro day makes sense.

Maybe I am overthinking but what I just posted makes sense to me lol.

Originally posted by boomer49er:
Unless Fields is just their guy and they don't want to chance somebody leaping ahead of them and taking him at #2.

There is certainly a chance they are in love with Fields and decided to move to 3 because they were confident the JETs love Wilson.

Then again, maybe they play the smokescreen game because that's just what they have always done. There's nothing to gain by telegraphing the pick, so don't.

Secondly....there are a lot of other guys at Alabama they might want to catch a look at.

Or maybe they know the Jets are going to take Fields, or Lance, and they don't want anybody moving up to take Wilson.