Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
They also have no real reason to try to smoke screen things. The first two picks are already basically locked in.

You could have said the same thing in the leadup 2017.

Browns were taking Garrett 1.

Yet the 49ers did smoke screen.

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Hard not to have great statistical season when your entire skill position group is going in the 1st round of the NFL draft. Not his fault he had this roster, but put him on Notre Dame and what is his season like? He's in the Mond/ Davis discussion IMO.

Tua had more weapons. He also had injury concerns. He got outperforms this season by Mac. Tua went 6 overall. So how is Mac some huge reach? Lawrence teams have been stacked. So have Fields. No one seems to care with them.(btw I am high on fields.) The fact is Mac had great mechanics. He has great decision making and made
Accurate throws. He was consitntly great all season long.

Originally posted by SFrush:
So Kyle never attends pro days but he's attending Mac's. It's happening.

God help us! 😡

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Because of the bolded. If Shanahan is willing to push all of his chips to the center of the table with Mac Jones, then I'm down.

The 49ers made a huge move to get a QB and I don't think Shanahan gives a crap what fans think or what Mel Kiper thinks, he'll choose the guy that he thinks he can win a SB with and if that is Jones then so be it. If Shanahan does win a SB with Jones then no one will give a crap what it cost to move up for him.

Originally posted by Bloodless:
Tua had more weapons. He also had injury concerns. He got outperforms this season by Mac. Tua went 6 overall. So how is Mac some huge reach? Lawrence teams have been stacked. So have Fields. No one seems to care with them.(btw I am high on fields.) The fact is Mac had great mechanics. He has great decision making and made
Accurate throws. He was consitntly great all season long.

Lol and look how tua transitioned to the nfl. Same s**t will happen w/ mac

Someone from QB collective retweeted Simms. Should this worry us that don't want him?

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Hard not to have great statistical season when your entire skill position group is going in the 1st round of the NFL draft. Not his fault he had this roster, but put him on Notre Dame and what is his season like? He's in the Mond/ Davis discussion IMO.

Tua had more weapons. He also had injury concerns. He got outperforms this season by Mac. Tua went 6 overall. So how is Mac some huge reach? Lawrence teams have been stacked. So have Fields. No one seems to care with them.(btw I am high on fields.) The fact is Mac had great mechanics. He has great decision making and made
Accurate throws. He was consitntly great all season long.

If that's their guy, nothing I can do about it. It'll be their (Kyle/Lynch) undoing if they're wrong and franchise will be toast for quite a few years. I'll root for whoever they chose, but if Mayo Jones isn't the answer, I won't have much sympathy for Shanalynch. Also Tua and Lawrence performed multiple seasons at high level. Mac had one season.

Oh and there is this:

**--Smith, the Heisman winner, led the nation with 105 catches and 1,641 yards. Nobody else was close.

**--Running back Najee Harris (1,387 yards, 24 touchdowns) is going to be a star in the NFL. His leap over a Notre Dame defender in the Rose Bowl will be one of the ever-lasting images of the 2020 season.

**--The Joe Moore Award goes to the best offensive line in college football. Alabama won the award over Texas A&M and Notre Dame.

**--When the Associated Press All-America team was announced, Alabama had five—that's right five—players on the first-team offense: Jones, Smith, Harris, OT Alex Leatherwood, and center Landon Dickerson.

Bama overmatched everyone, not his fault. But they did.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Because of the bolded. If Shanahan is willing to push all of his chips to the center of the table with Mac Jones, then I'm down.

The 49ers made a huge move to get a QB and I don't think Shanahan gives a crap what fans think or what Mel Kiper thinks, he'll choose the guy that he thinks he can win a SB with and if that is Jones then so be it. If Shanahan does win a SB with Jones then no one will give a crap what it cost to move up for him.

THE only positive thing about drafting Mack Jones is that we'll be in the running for ARCH LOTTERY when it's all said and done..

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by okdkid:
Food for thought. May be nothing.

Shanahan is already personally familiar with Fields from his days at the QB collective. https://t.co/Jy2fKbx3Mp

— Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) March 29, 2021

Lol I don't know why people keep bringing this up. Kyle spent a weekend with Justin Fields back when when Fields was 17 years old. He really "knows"him.

Exactly. Hundreds of kids attend those camps. People are making way too big of deal of it.

Originally posted by Bloodless:
C'mon. Mac had one of them best statistical seasons in college football history. He has the best footwork and pocket awareness out of anyone in the draft. Throws a great deepball. Reads the defense incredibaly well. I don't get how that is one of them worst reaches. Lance now that is a reach. I feel like if peyton manning was in this draft you would hate the pick because he wasn't a running QB.

Colt Brennan had one of the best seasons in college football history, go look at Graham Harrell's stats at Texas Tech, Colt McCoy the winningest QB in college football history, Tim Tebow regarded as the best college QB in college history etc...

I don't give a crap about stats, especially on the team he played on...like I said throw him on Iowa or some mid level big 10 team and no one gives a s**t about him.

His footwork isn't some elite trait, it's good it's not something that separates him for anyone. Davis Mills had immaculate overall mechanics. There are Mac Jones level talents in every draft, they just didn't get the luxury of sitting for 3yrs and getting to play for Bama in a Covid weird ass football season.

Mac Jones has been so romanticized it's disgusting at this point.

Originally posted by frenchmov:
Lol and look how tua transitioned to the nfl. Same s**t will happen w/ mac

Tua was coming off a severe injury that some even thought was potentially career-threatening. He hadn't played meaningful football in a year before getting thrown into the mix in a Covid year and its not like he was awful either.

Originally posted by SFrush:
Exactly. Hundreds of kids attend those camps. People are making way too big of deal of it.

People act like Shanahan was working hands-on with Field for years on end. They may have spent a grand total of 15-30 minutes together. Lots of reasons to suspect that the team may draft Fields. Shanahan having been at a camp with him five years ago isn't one.

Originally posted by Rathof44:
If that's their guy, nothing I can do about it. It'll be their (Kyle/Lynch) undoing if they're wrong and franchise will be toast for quite a few years. I'll root for whoever they chose, but if Mayo Jones isn't the answer, I won't have much sympathy for Shanalynch. Also Tua and Lawrence performed multiple seasons at high level. Mac had one season.

Oh and there is this:

**--Smith, the Heisman winner, led the nation with 105 catches and 1,641 yards. Nobody else was close.

**--Running back Najee Harris (1,387 yards, 24 touchdowns) is going to be a star in the NFL. His leap over a Notre Dame defender in the Rose Bowl will be one of the ever-lasting images of the 2020 season.

**--The Joe Moore Award goes to the best offensive line in college football. Alabama won the award over Texas A&M and Notre Dame.

**--When the Associated Press All-America team was announced, Alabama had five—that's right five—players on the first-team offense: Jones, Smith, Harris, OT Alex Leatherwood, and center Landon Dickerson.

Bama overmatched everyone, not his fault. But they did.

exactly! Like I said throw him on some mid level big10 school and no one gives a s**t about him.

Anyone thinking what he brings to the table are some unattainable traits that require 3 1st rd picks is only lying to themselves.

Considering they've been trying to trade up for weeks tells me they already had a pretty firm idea of who they want so I don't take away it as an indication to which guy they're leaning too.

You could see it as an indication Jones is the favorite and they are reinforcing that feeling by checking him out in person on his pro day or you could see it as someone else is the favorite and they want to at least kick the tires on Jones to see if he does anything that causes them to at least give the decision a second thought.

Just really hard for me to believe they trade 2 firsts and a 3rd to move up to #3 overall and still be undecided in who they are taking so I just don't see any pro days swaying who they plan on picking.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Tua was coming off a severe injury that some even thought was potentially career-threatening. He hadn't played meaningful football in a year before getting thrown into the mix in a Covid year and its not like he was awful either.

Nah dude he wasn't good at all

those open passing windows he got don't exist anymore. All the talk of being super accurate with great mechanics and high football IQ.... It's the same thing with Jones. Kyle Crabbs talks about it in that podcast I posted in here. Tua is a better talent overall then Jones and had the same luxury of playing in Bama.