Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Jones is not bad. All three have a good chance to be good QBs. The capital to get to 3 is NOT a function of the player! It is a function of the MARKET. Supply and demand, not talent, is what fueled the trade. There are 5 worthy QBs, and about 10 teams who want one of them.

Oh b******t lol.

if you're all about Mac Jones and no one else you do not need to give up that much capital. If Mac Jones is all that he should be going #1 overall.

the fact that you said Jones "is not bad" isn't selling him either lol. You give up that capital for a top 5 caliber talent not he's not bad.

people just talking themselves into this horrible idea because it probably happens.

The San Francisco 49ers could be ready to stun the football world with the No. 3 overall pick in the 2021 NFL Draft.

Most observers presumed the 49ers were looking to draft Justin Fields or Trey Lance with the selection they acquired in a blockbuster trade with the Miami Dolphins this week. But NFL Network draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah said Monday that other teams believe otherwise.

"The majority of people around the league believe this is for Mac Jones," Jeremiah said on "The Athletic Football Show" podcast.

He added: "Of the people that you would want to believe and put your faith in, the overwhelming majority of them believe this is going to be Mac Jones with that pick. So that's what's so shocking."

Jones is widely viewed as the draft's fifth-best quarterback prospect behind Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Fields, and Lance. Lawrence and Wilson are odds-on favorites to go first and second overall to the Jacksonville Jaguars and New York Jets, respectively.

Jeremiah added that the Carolina Panthers, who own the No. 8 overall selection, are the team that's been most connected to Jones. The draft analyst suggested the 49ers may have thought it was necessary to move ahead of Carolina to secure the Alabama standout.

San Francisco sent the No. 12 pick, its next two first-rounders, and a 2022 third-round selection to Miami for No. 3.

Jones and Fields will both perform at their respective pro days on Tuesday. 49ers general manager John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan are expected to attend Jones' workout, while assistant GM Adam Peters is set to scout Fields, according to Peter King of NBC Sports.

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
How does running around with no one trying to tackle you show athleticism on a pro day workout? Makes no sense.

You right now:



There's still over three weeks left until the draft At this point any of these QB's are still in play, it just depends on what the scouts and coaching staff are prioritizing but as I said in the thread in NT, I'm cool with whoever the 49ers pick. Its not my job on the line, its theirs. If they hit a homerun and grab a franchise QB, then it won't matter one damn bit how anyone felt about it. In the end that is all I'm hoping for, get a QB that can be great.

How can you be cool with using 3 1st rd picks on Mac Jones...yes it's their job on the line but guess what they could be fire before they even get another 1st rd pick to use. Fans are stuck with the leftover b******t.

We're not all QB gurus but most of us aren't stupid either. We watch the games and there's some freaking common sense that goes into it. He's just not on the same level. Throw him on Iowa and no one is talking about him. He's a early day 3 pick.

I've been a fan of this team for over 30 yrs they have never done anything like this to get a QB. It's literally one of the biggest picks this franchise has ever made....the fact that f**king McCorkle is even in the conversation is rules for someone getting canned imo.

we will see, I should be pumped they finally made a move...now it might come down as one of the worst reaches in football history

C'mon. Mac had one of them best statistical seasons in college football history. He has the best footwork and pocket awareness out of anyone in the draft. Throws a great deepball. Reads the defense incredibaly well. I don't get how that is one of them worst reaches. Lance now that is a reach. I feel like if peyton manning was in this draft you would hate the pick because he wasn't a running QB.

Hard not to have great statistical season when your entire skill position group is going in the 1st round of the NFL draft. Not his fault he had this roster, but put him on Notre Dame and what is his season like? He's in the Mond/ Davis discussion IMO.

This has got to be one of the weakest arguments ever. Every successful QB in history has stellar talent around them. Tua included. You STILL have to do it. And when you break down a QB, you aren't evaluating his skill positions. You're breaking down his traits in isolation.

lol

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I'll be in n a padded room saying "Saleh must have told us they're going Fields" over and over

Jaire finally notices you sleeping in his garage huh?

You mean the player from the draft you sprinkled your unenthusiastic handjob energy all over and then we drafted the boring tackle instead of an all pro CB. Yeah it's only a 3 year restraining order

Originally posted by NYniner85:
lol

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We're not drafting him, right?! RIGHT!!!??!

Originally posted by NCommand:
This has got to be one of the weakest arguments ever. Every successful QB in history has stellar talent around them. Tua included. You STILL have to do it. And when you break down a QB, you aren't evaluating his skill positions. You're breaking down his traits in isolation.

Respectfully disagree, without his eye popping stats and numbers, he wouldn't have the hype he has now. Put Lance or n that Bama offense, he's the consensus one. Put Mond (gross) in that offense, he's a top 5-6 QBs. I will give him credit, he can read a defense and process, IMO that's what he does well. Gave up a ton to get to #3, he better be Peyton Manning, maybe he will be. Just have considerable doubts.

Originally posted by NCommand:
This has got to be one of the weakest arguments ever. Every successful QB in history has stellar talent around them. Tua included. You STILL have to do it. And when you break down a QB, you aren't evaluating his skill positions. You're breaking down his traits in isolation.

Yes and look how Tua played last yr....those WIDE OPEN reads weren't there and he was regarded as one of the most accurate QBs in that draft. He had a better arm than Jones super heady and yes more mobile. Those windows are much smaller in the NFL. arm talent matters. I re-watched his pro-day and Lance's right after and it was strikingly obvious how much worse his arm is compared to just him. Not even in the same realm.

People are romanticizing Jones right now and it's comical. You can find guys with his skill set in every single draft. Go listen to Crocky and KP talk about him. Go listen to Kyle Crabbs of the draft network talk about him. EVERY single week he stepped onto the field his team was marginally better. It's not even close to a weak argument, you throw him on a mid level BIG10 team and no gives a s**t about Mac Jones. Throw him with Harbs in Michigan and he's a day 3 pick.

His traits are not some magical thing that doesn't exist every yr in a draft, so you need to burn 3 1sts. Hell Davis Mills can do everything Jones can do, he just happened to play on a s**t Stanford team with crappy play calling. Bama in a covid half ass season dominated passed purely on talent level...and it wasn't at the QB position overall.

49ers watching Mac Jones instead of Fields
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/29/after-throwing-for-scouts-last-week-mac-jones-will-throw-again-on-tuesday/

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Respectfully disagree, without his eye popping stats and numbers, he wouldn't have the hype he has now. Put Lance or n that Bama offense, he's the consensus one. Put Mond (gross) in that offense, he's a top 5-6 QBs. I will give him credit, he can read a defense and process, IMO that's what he does well. Gave up a ton to get to #3, he better be Peyton Manning, maybe he will be. Just have considerable doubts.

Agreed....and on top of it he put up these stats in a covid half ass season. With players opting out and such. Teams that had the best pure talent had a massive advantage. Teams that had a QB that was on the roster for 3 yrs learning the offense, had an advantage.

Only way this trade turns into a success is if he's Manning or Brady because he's gonna have to be. The likelihood of that is f**king slim.

Lynch and Kyle going to Alabama. Adam Peters and other staff members are going to Ohio State. I don't know if that has any meaning. I just can't imagine that they would give up 2 firsts and a 3rd to move up and draft a player that may have been available at #12. I'll be disappointed if that's their choice. I just don't see anything special. He looks like a lot of QBs in the NFL, including Jimmy and Cousins.

Originally posted by ritz126:
49ers watching Mac Jones instead of Fields
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/29/after-throwing-for-scouts-last-week-mac-jones-will-throw-again-on-tuesday/

Adam Peters is going to the Ohio St. pro day.

Also why isn't Mac Jones going to the Jets then? They run the same offense and ask their QB to do the same thing...that team is littered with shanny guys. WHY aren't they all over him?

Can't believe that they would pass on those guys to f—k their own legacies with a weak armed qb in a league with Allen,Mahommes, soon Wilson. They are third pick guys and gals. This doesn't make sense as a smokescreen. Fluck

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Nah dude he wasn't good at all

those open passing windows he got don't exist anymore. All the talk of being super accurate with great mechanics and high football IQ.... It's the same thing with Jones. Kyle Crabbs talks about it in that podcast I posted in here. Tua is a better talent overall then Jones and had the same luxury of playing in Bama.

How is Haskins doing though? OSU is 69-4 vs the Big 10 since Urban Meyer arrived and have put up 5 straight Heisman QB talents and not one of them have done a d thing in the NFL. If you run a 4.5 playing QB at OSU is like taking candy from a baby. I'm not against Fields but we really need to look into his head because OSU breeds party kids. They win off just being faster and more explosive than their slow a Big 10 peers. There's a reason Haskins is gone 2 years in. He never had the work ethic. Never had to make NFL throws and was just throwing to open receivers. Fields has a lot more talent than him but yeah he's had it just as easy as Mac.

Dude Fields ain't a party kid. All three of these guys are deadly serious about the NFL.

The fact that not a single person new about SF being interested in moving up in this draft or really loving any of the QBs, leads me to believe no one has a clue who they want...it's all about Kyle and Kirk Cousins connections forever and who "looks" most like that? McCorkle.