Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
It wouldn't be my favorite or personal choice BUT I 100% would get it and would be behind it 5 minutes after the pick.
And all the smoke is mentally and emotionally preparing me for that fire.
I take solace in knowing every QB Kyle has worked with, he's got the most out of him. He's taken a talent like Matt Ryan and he got better and better and better.
That could be the case here and Matt Ryan is proof you never stop growing and developing even as a veteran. As a rookie, Jones is a perfect mold clay with 100% buy-in from the start (no push back like with Ryan).
It would mean Kyle would need to continue to invest in pass protection and THAT scares me far more than the pick itself.
Why can't you take a MUCH MUCH better piece of clay then? You keep saying his Matt Ryan, yet Ryan is like 15-20lbs bigger and 2/3 inches taller. He wasn't a pure in the pocket passer at BC (watch that Vtech game for example). He wasn't surrounded by elite talent. I don't think BC has been close to good since he left. It's not close to the same situation. I'd be vastly more impressed if he did what he did at BC and guys weren't constantly wide open.
If Kyle wants someone that can read progressions and throw the ball on time then go get someone on day 2 of the draft. Go get a Davis Mills or Trask... You don't spend 3 1sts and then some for that.
Ahhh there's the PP comment I was waiting for 
I brought up the PP for you as a lean towards your want...it's less of an issue with the mobile QB's you want. Clearly more of an issue if he goes with Mac Jones. Right?
I don't know if Kyle values what you value in a QB as a primary driver. Like Hero said, if you simply watch the tape in isolation you see all of Kyle's traits...lightning quick delivery, progression reading, touch on short and deep balls that allow for optimal YAC, lightening decision making (including to run), watch his footwork and mechanics, how he moves IN the pocket and feels the pressure before it gets there as he slides into lanes keeping his eyes downfield, etc. You see all of Kyle's offense in that one video I reviewed too.
Also, you don't need to run a 4.3 to run a bootleg in Kyle's offense esp. in shot gun. It helps to have lateral speed and quickness in case McGlinchey and/or Kittle instantly blow their pass protection but it's certainly not a must. If you can slide fast enough into pocket lanes, you can run a bootleg.
I confirmed with Niners816 that of the 570 passing attempts, 142 were PA. He runs those just fine. So how many of the 142 do you think were bootlegs?
He thinks, at most 35 times A YEAR.
One thing about Mac's processing speed. The dude (supposedly) already has a masters degree when most everybody else still needs to take some classes to finish their undergraduate degree.
(Again I'm leaning Fields as my personal favorite) but Tom's made a good living processing and solving defensive schemes better than other QBs and with the handicapp of a very limited physical skill set. If Lance's and Feilds ceilings are comped to Mahomes, why not Macs ceiling comped to Ryan/Brady?
If Mac is picked at #3 and I'm still doubtful about that, I'll try to convince myself that Kyle is trying to draft the next Tom Brady. And if he fails then at least he tried. Vs staying at #12 and never having the opportunity to do so because he went to another team. I can give him credit for trying and failing, but certainly won't give him credit if he tries to play it safe. Fortune favors the Bold.
