Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by Bitplayer:

Heres a question. Do you think he can beat out Mullens as qb2 next year for the niners? I think he would.

But for a first or second round pick?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Bitplayer:
Heres a question. Do you think he can beat out Mullens as qb2 next year for the niners? I think he would.

But for a first or second round pick?

Laugh all you want but Im not seeing it. Jimmy is a starting caliber Qb and Mullens is a more than solid qb2.

If we cant get a major upgrade at that position through the draft then why bother?

I know we need to upgrade at qb but- if we cant get the top hanging fruit- our current guys are gonna have to do as we fill holes imo

Originally posted by Heroism:
Mac Jones completion % is crazy, especially considering how much he pushes the ball downfield.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Mac Jones completion % is crazy, especially considering how much he pushes the ball downfield.

Agreed.

You guys realize guys like Smith and Waddle when he was playing are so wide open it's ridiculous. Yes it's cool he hits them but these guys make it so much easy for him it's not fair. Same thing with Tua last year and he's not exactly proving he's better than or close to Burrow or Herbert. You either go all out and trade for Wilson/Fields whoever Jags pass on or take Lance. Or just bring Jimmy back, I have no faith in Alabama qbs when they have NFL talent up and down that offense

Originally posted by krizay:

Depends on where they go. That's almost always the case with QBs

This

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

You guys realize guys like Smith and Waddle when he was playing are so wide open it's ridiculous. Yes it's cool he hits them but these guys make it so much easy for him it's not fair. Same thing with Tua last year and he's not exactly proving he's better than or close to Burrow or Herbert. You either go all out and trade for Wilson/Fields whoever Jags pass on or take Lance. Or just bring Jimmy back, I have no faith in Alabama qbs when they have NFL talent up and down that offense

I mean Burrow was throwing to Ja'Marr Chase and Justin Jefferson, I wouldn't call those bad WRs

Herbert was just playing in the wrong offense for his skill set in Oregon.

Jones isn't my top QB, but he's got some Burrow like qualities. Great under pressure, amazing deep ball, very accurate, smart, mobile in the pocket, good internal clock etc.

It's not sexy but I wouldn't hate it...I prefer the other 4 QBs a head of him, but I wouldn't be upset if Jones ended up in SF.

Just another QB prospect to at to the pot

Jimmy G gives the team more of a chance to win in 2021 than any of the other qb's that will be available at the Niners pick. In my opinion......

The team can RFA mullens to a second round tender for 4 million in 2021. 31 million tied up in a starting calibur qb and a quality back up is not bad.

Draft a flyer qb in round 4, and see if they develop.

This is the "win now" theory........

Originally posted by 9erred:

Jimmy G gives the team more of a chance to win in 2021 than any of the other qb's that will be available at the Niners pick. In my opinion......

The team can RFA mullens to a second round tender for 4 million in 2021. 31 million tied up in a starting calibur qb and a quality back up is not bad.

Draft a flyer qb in round 4, and see if they develop.

This is the "win now" theory........

Win now is great if you have the same 2019 elite roster coming back in 2021. Currently that's not feasible with the amount of FAs we have and they current drop in cap space.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by irishluder:

Problem is, same as Wilson, he's played himself to where we can't land him unless we trade up

I doubt it. I don't see 5 QBs going in the first 15 picks. Not a chance that Jones goes before Lawrence and Fields and its highly unlikely that he goes before Wilson and Lance, even if he wins the NC. NFL teams put a huge premium on QB upside and those guys are all ahead of Jones in terms of pure physical ability.


That will also be to Jones's advantage. Less likely that he winds up on a bad team or one that is in major flux. With his skillset, he needs to go somewhere with a well established offensive system where he can simply follow an existing script the way he's doing at Bama. Put him with the Saints, 49ers, Patriots or Colts and I think he has a good chance of success.


Put him with a team like the Bears, Lions or WFC and the odds of him flopping increase considerably.


I saw someone describe him as a guy that could develop into your franchise QB but he can't be the face of your rebuild and I think that is pretty spot on.

Yeah I'd be surprised if Jones was a first round unless it's on the bottom part of the first round. As good as he's played I feel like teams may actually downplay his performance due to the talent on that team.

Combine will be interesting this year.

Jones is a tough one to evaluate. He has such great talent around him that he makes it look easy. Imagine if he had Waddle out there too. Smith is jusy crazy good. He has everything a receiver needs. Better than average speed. Great route running. Terrific hands. Ability to jump and fight for the ball. The onlt thing he lacks is great size but he makes up for that with his tenacity and route running.

All that being said, Jones is delivering the ball on the money. When his guys get open the ball is usually right in their hands in full stride. He made a throw to the back of the end zone yesterday that was either going to be caught by Smith or out of the end zone. It was a perfect throw and Smith made a leaping catch. If he throws it shorter it's knocked down or intercepted. Any further and it's out of the end zone. Those types of throws are far more common in the NFLthan the 40 yard wide open TDs.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Jones is a tough one to evaluate. He has such great talent around him that he makes it look easy. Imagine if he had Waddle out there too. Smith is jusy crazy good. He has everything a receiver needs. Better than average speed. Great route running. Terrific hands. Ability to jump and fight for the ball. The onlt thing he lacks is great size but he makes up for that with his tenacity and route running.

All that being said, Jones is delivering the ball on the money. When his guys get open the ball is usually right in their hands in full stride. He made a throw to the back of the end zone yesterday that was either going to be caught by Smith or out of the end zone. It was a perfect throw and Smith made a leaping catch. If he throws it shorter it's knocked down or intercepted. Any further and it's out of the end zone. Those types of throws are far more common in the NFLthan the 40 yard wide open TDs.

He had a throw to Metchie down the field early in the third quarter that was his best throw of the game IMO. Metchie was bracketed with the corner inside and the safety outside. Jones put the pass right on the money. That pass had to be absolutely perfect with no room for error.

Originally posted by Hopper:
He had a throw to Metchie down the field early in the third quarter that was his best throw of the game IMO. Metchie was bracketed with the corner inside and the safety outside. Jones put the pass right on the money. That pass had to be absolutely perfect with no room for error.

I know which one you're talking about. The thing that is most impressive with him is he doesn't make many bad throws. I know some of them look easy but you see QBs miss easy throws a lot. He doesn't. Still, I'd rather get Smith than Jones.

At first glance, just watching some random youtube highlight, he looks like Jimmy G. pre-ACL :) or circa 2019 reg season :)

I like Jones especially deep balls and short throws. Its actually the intermediate throws that he seems tentative and less aggressive on to me.

Originally posted by 49erminion:
At first glance, just watching some random youtube highlight, he looks like Jimmy G. pre-ACL :) or circa 2019 reg season :)

He's more accurate on deep throws than Jimmy. He doesn't move really well so he's like Jimmy in that respect.