Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Here's another passing stud...

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
f**k, its gonna be a month of this huh?

It's definitely going to be longer than a month, lol. Even a guy like Stephen Curry had trolls and haters on warriors forums for years, calling him a hot-dogging GQ chucker until he won a championship.

Here's the Aints new starting QB...

Only 49ers fans would judge a QB by how he looks with his shirt off, one of the many reasons I don't post much here anymore.

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Right on. I'm not sure I have a problem with him the player as much as what they gave up to get there. You gave up 3 first for a guy whose admittedly ceiling is Cousins. Where as the other two guys (Lance and Fields) may not have as safe a floor, but their ceilings are Josh Allen and Watson. Just my .02.

Nothing wrong with that. I have no idea what his ceiling is but I get the comps.

Here's who TO wanted to play with over Garcia....

Originally posted by jcs:
Here's the Aints new starting QB...

This guy went #1 overall just a couple of years ago...

Originally posted by bigdawg49:

Originally posted by hubbyt:
If they draft Mac Jones at 3, it will be the decision that ultimately gets Shanahan fired. As good as an OC as he is maybe thats his best role. I cannot phathom that "we" traded 3 1st rd picks for Jones. Please be a dream

Don't worry because it's highly unlikely we draft Mac Jones at 3. It's lance Wilson or fields. Hell the nets might even draft fields. I hate how peoples
opinion on a draft from people like maiocco Simms and Jeremiah get misconstrued as fact. I hate that s**t.

I have no idea who Shanahan is going to pick. But it sound like your sure its not going to be Jones . Why is it not going to be Jones? Is it because he is not as good of a athlete as lance Wilson or fields?? Maybe Shanahan Like Mac Jones more then lance Wilson or fields???

Originally posted by dlance:

Originally posted by bigdawg49:

Originally posted by hubbyt:
If they draft Mac Jones at 3, it will be the decision that ultimately gets Shanahan fired. As good as an OC as he is maybe thats his best role. I cannot phathom that "we" traded 3 1st rd picks for Jones. Please be a dream

Don't worry because it's highly unlikely we draft Mac Jones at 3. It's lance Wilson or fields. Hell the nets might even draft fields. I hate how peoples
opinion on a draft from people like maiocco Simms and Jeremiah get misconstrued as fact. I hate that s**t.

I have no idea who Shanahan is going to pick. But it sound like your sure its not going to be Jones . Why is it not going to be Jones? Is it because he is not as good of a athlete as lance Wilson or fields?? Maybe Shanahan Like Mac Jones more then lance Wilson or fields???

Cause bigdawg has that insider information that Maiocco and Simms don't.

Getting more and more excited about Mac Jones. I think all of the people trashing the pick will be some added motivation for him and Shannahan as well. Shannahan has drafted receivers that can grab and go. Now he's about to get his qb to get it to them. This is his chance to prove to the league that he's a true football genius. He's all in and so am I. So excited for this coming season.

Originally posted by jcs:
Cause bigdawg has that insider information that Maiocco and Simms don't.

Thanks

This thread is ridiculous.

We hire Kyle Shanahan, the offensive genius, to win us Lombardi trophies, but we don't give him the quarterback that allows him to run his offense? We just don't seem to grasp this is not a physical position. All the great quarterbacks beat you with their heads, not their physical prowess. Physical specimens at the position are a dime a dozen. The guys that have minds so quick that no matter what you try to do to stop them, they make what you just did wrong. That, folks, is he way to win against the intelligent defenses of the NFL today.

Kyle can't trust Jimmy Garoppolo. The lack of trust runs so deep that he only threw eight times against Green Bay in the playoffs. Every game, he knows there will be a least a couple of WTF plays. He can't play his game of making you defend "every blade of grass", because everybody in the league knows Jimmy can't hit the deep ball. The world Screams "Lets Make Garoppolo Beat Us" Every Sunday. We Lost the Super Bowl because Jimmy couldn't hit Sanders when he beat his man by five yards. But, Mac is no good because his guys get open too often.

Mac Jones Never has WTF plays. Mac Jones hits the deep balls. Mac Jones is The Man that Shanahan can trust. If we can't see that, we are selfish in our biases and not good fans. Either trust Shanahan to go get his man, or now is the time to go find your next head coach. Not.

OK, yes, you need good enough physical traits. We can't do it with noodle arm Sean Hill. Mac's deep balls show he has enough arm strength. Oh, but he's slow. His 40 time is 4.79. Jimmy Garoppolo's is 4.97. Joe Montana's is 4.7. Tua's is 4.90. Hell, Jerry freakin Rice's is 4.71

How about the latest Super Bowl winning quarterbacks? Per Google:

Tom Brady 5.28

Patrick Mahomes 4.80 4.80, people. Does that surprise you?

Tom Brady 5.28

Nick foles 5.14

Tom Brady 5.28

Peyton Manning 4.80

Tom Brady 5.28

Russsell Wilson 4.55

Joe Flacco 4.84

Eli Manning 4.92

Aaron Rodgers 4.71

Drew Brees 4.83

Ben Roethlisberger 4.75

Eli Manning 4.92

Peyton Manning 4.80

Ben Roethlisberger 4.75

Tom Brady 5.28

TomBrady 5.28

Brad Johnson 5.02

Tom Brady 5.28

Trent Dilfer 4.7

So, 5 of the last 21 Super Bowls winners were quarterbacked by oh so slightly faster men. Less than 24 percent. Man, don't give me that loser. (Oh Wait, he's the National Champion?) Give me somebody more athletic, and I will develop his mental quickness to that of the top five out of 330 million.

Good Luck.

Jones a smoke screen so teams think their guy will be there at 4 .

Originally posted by KID9R:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Because they wanted to get to 3 to take a QB, presumably Wilson, but once we beat them to 3, they knew their chances of getting their QB at 6 was nil.

Obligatory side note about Jones:

Very accurate at all three levels, elite touch, elite mental traits.

What exactly are his elite mental traits that the other two QBs don't have in your opinion?

Per Pro Football Focus

Jones is the wild card of the quarterback class. He produced out-of-this-world stats that hold up
to Joe Burrow's from a season ago, which will make many ask why he's not getting the same level of
hype. The answer is that even though Burrow's team was loaded with NFL talent, Jones' situation
was still far more favorable. The Bama quarterback completed 44 passes into tight windows all
season compared to 124 from Burrow in 2019. Jones still showed tremendous command of the
Tide's offense and also displayed good accuracy, but his job will get way harder next season

NFL comparison: Derek Carr

PROS
-Operated one of the most dominant offenses in
college football history
-Veteran understanding of the offense. The timing
of his throws was meticulous.
-Doesn't miss underneath. The most accurate QB
in the nation within 10 yards.
-Calm in pocket under pressure. Four career TWPs
on 131 pressured dropbacks.

CONS
-Middling arm. Underthrew a number of deep balls
but got away with it because of his WRs.
-600 more yards than anyone in the country to
open receivers. Offense made it easy.
-Offers almost nothing as a runner or outside of
structure.
-One year of elite play as a senior

NFL DRAFT
PROJECTION : 1-2 RD

You are late to the party lol.

He is the best at quickly — and correctly — going through progressions and finding the open guy.

For an example of a contrast, Lance will go through progressions and skip a wide open guy, or fail to see an obvious wide open hot route during a blitz.

There is nothing uncontroversial about this. Everyone who has put in some time watching these guys sees this.

Each has strengths and weaknesses. Honestly, to me any one of them can find success here, and each of them needs to improve on things and will need to compensate for weaknesses.