Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by BOI49er:
This thread is ridiculous.

We hire Kyle Shanahan, the offensive genius, to win us Lombardi trophies, but we don't give him the quarterback that allows him to run his offense? We just don't seem to grasp this is not a physical position. All the great quarterbacks beat you with their heads, not their physical prowess. Physical specimens at the position are a dime a dozen. The guys that have minds so quick that no matter what you try to do to stop them, they make what you just did wrong. That, folks, is he way to win against the intelligent defenses of the NFL today.

Kyle can't trust Jimmy Garoppolo. The lack of trust runs so deep that he only threw eight times against Green Bay in the playoffs. Every game, he knows there will be a least a couple of WTF plays. He can't play his game of making you defend "every blade of grass", because everybody in the league knows Jimmy can't hit the deep ball. The world Screams "Lets Make Garoppolo Beat Us" Every Sunday. We Lost the Super Bowl because Jimmy couldn't hit Sanders when he beat his man by five yards. But, Mac is no good because his guys get open too often.

Mac Jones Never has WTF plays. Mac Jones hits the deep balls. Mac Jones is The Man that Shanahan can trust. If we can't see that, we are selfish in our biases and not good fans. Either trust Shanahan to go get his man, or now is the time to go find your next head coach. Not.

OK, yes, you need good enough physical traits. We can't do it with noodle arm Sean Hill. Mac's deep balls show he has enough arm strength. Oh, but he's slow. His 40 time is 4.79. Jimmy Garoppolo's is 4.97. Joe Montana's is 4.7. Tua's is 4.90. Hell, Jerry freakin Rice's is 4.71

How about the latest Super Bowl winning quarterbacks? Per Google:

Tom Brady 5.28

Patrick Mahomes 4.80 4.80, people. Does that surprise you?

Tom Brady 5.28

Nick foles 5.14

Tom Brady 5.28

Peyton Manning 4.80

Tom Brady 5.28

Russsell Wilson 4.55

Joe Flacco 4.84

Eli Manning 4.92

Aaron Rodgers 4.71

Drew Brees 4.83

Ben Roethlisberger 4.75

Eli Manning 4.92

Peyton Manning 4.80

Ben Roethlisberger 4.75

Tom Brady 5.28

TomBrady 5.28

Brad Johnson 5.02

Tom Brady 5.28

Trent Dilfer 4.7

So, 5 of the last 21 Super Bowls winners were quarterbacked by oh so slightly faster men. Less than 24 percent. Man, don't give me that loser. (Oh Wait, he's the National Champion?) Give me somebody more athletic, and I will develop his mental quickness to that of the top five out of 330 million.

Good Luck.

Originally posted by KID9R:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by KID9R:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
If being open by five yards is what affects deep ball accuracy then Jimmy wouldn't have missed Bourne for the game winner in week 1 or the Super Bowl winner to Sanders last year.

No, it shows how terrible Jimmy is at the deep ball. Most competent quarterbacks make those throws. Why do you think we never take deep shots with him? Even when we had Goodwin we just wouldn't do it.

Deep passes are always tight windows because being off a couple of degrees at launch point result in a further distance from the intended target than a pass much shorter with the same degrees of initial inaccuracy. Think of sunlight flux. Same concept. The further away you are, the further apart field lines are.

If someone is accurate on deep passes it is because they are accurate on deep passes.

LOL, ya I understand deep passes are harder. Doesn't mean Jimmy isn't terrible at them compared to other QB.
Jones "Underthrew a number of deep balls
but got away with it because of his WRs"

Originally posted by lamontb:
It's the razorback

I'm really thinking that they are picking Jones

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Been telling y'all, he's the mobile version of Peyton Manning. Who wouldn't want that?

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
You are late to the party lol.

He is the best at quickly — and correctly — going through progressions and finding the open guy.

For an example of a contrast, Lance will go through progressions and skip a wide open guy, or fail to see an obvious wide open hot route during a blitz.

There is nothing uncontroversial about this. Everyone who has put in some time watching these guys sees this.

Each has strengths and weaknesses. Honestly, to me any one of them can find success here, and each of them needs to improve on things and will need to compensate for weaknesses.

Originally posted by Costanza:
I still can't believe this thing has legs. I need to find a new hobby if they draft Mac Jones. This isn't good for my health.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Jones a smoke screen so teams think their guy will be there at 4 .

Originally posted by KID9R:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Jones a smoke screen so teams think their guy will be there at 4 .

This, and a part of me is hoping that Kyle's trying to play mind games on Saleh and Lafleur. "Hmm if Kyle really wants Jones, maybe we should draft him instead of Wilson"

Originally posted by gold49digger:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
f**k, its gonna be a month of this huh?

A month of shirtless flabby white dudes.

Oh jeez

Originally posted by NCommand:
Man, what Chris Simms says here at 39:00 is everything I need to hear.



"He's the quickest decision maker I've ever seen. His arm is better than Joe Burrow." ~ CS