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Originally posted by hubbyt:
So your saying that an all world QB that an NFL team supposedly traded 3 1st picks to take couldnt become a college starter until his final season? Interesting. I have to wonder why that is. Oh and to your point, Jones only had 13 passes because he didnt beat those other guys out. They both got to Bama in 2017. Period
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by 49er4life:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Can I get the WR separation on those throws please?
bit weird to criticize a qb for taking advantage of using his weapons
Not at all. When you clearly have the best weapons/players in college football around you and are throwing to receivers that have 5+ yards separation it's completely fair to ask if he could make those same plays in the NFL where that kind of separation happens very rarely.
yet against ranked opponents he was still able to produce
if were concerned about talent vs opposition than why do we like Fields who played against the Big 10 or Lance in the FCS?
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by KID9R:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:He had two top 12 picks at WR, they were always open!
You are late to the party lol.
He is the best at quickly — and correctly — going through progressions and finding the open guy.
For an example of a contrast, Lance will go through progressions and skip a wide open guy, or fail to see an obvious wide open hot route during a blitz.
There is nothing uncontroversial about this. Everyone who has put in some time watching these guys sees this.
Each has strengths and weaknesses. Honestly, to me any one of them can find success here, and each of them needs to improve on things and will need to compensate for weaknesses.
lol what the hell does that mean? Nothing, uncontroversial? Do you mean it's controversial?
And while the other two QBs can be coached up on the progression part of the game, you can't coach up Jones' lacking arm strength or mobility.
You can try to justify Jones all you want, but there's NO WAY he's has talent worthy of 3 first round picks.
And before this trade, almost nobody considered him the 3rd best QB
Lack of arm strength? Dude has a stronger arm than Jimmy.
Shanahan may have considered him the 3rd best QB. If he's 5th, 5th is barely worse than 3rd.
1,2 >> 3,4,5.
You guys are losing your minds over a trait that in this offense will affect a handful of plays per game, if that (mobility).
Originally posted by Youngone:
Gonna be super disappointed if we select a dude that would've been there at 12 anyway.
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by Youngone:
Gonna be super disappointed if we select a dude that would've been there at 12 anyway.
How do you know he will be there at 12?
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by Youngone:
Gonna be super disappointed if we select a dude that would've been there at 12 anyway.
How do you know he will be there at 12?
Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
And we are also not talking much about durability. This is one of the factors against Jimmy. Mac Jones is not mobile and combine that with questionable athleticism, concerns me about his being prone to getting injured for an long period of time. Yes, he is good at getting the ball out of his hands, but is that enough.
Common mistake I've heard over and over is that Mac Jones isn't athletic. That's not a fair evaluation. His footwork and pocket movement are awesome. And he's a better athlete than Jimmy G. It may not seem that way based on how they look in a uniform but it's the truth
— Chris Simms (@CSimmsQB) March 30, 2021
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Why didn't Mahomes beat out Davis Webb? Mahomes didn't get the start until Webb got hurt.
Why didn't Brady start every game his last year? (That's in fact why Mooch said they passed on him)
Super excited to hit the field with this guy tomoro! @MacJones_10 is a pro. The way he prepares. The way he trains. The way he carries himself. No detail is missed!
— QB Country (@QBCountry) March 30, 2021
Proud of who you are and how you work Mac! Let's have some fun tomorrow! 👊 pic.twitter.com/XbGWkkEoAt
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
And we are also not talking much about durability. This is one of the factors against Jimmy. Mac Jones is not mobile and combine that with questionable athleticism, concerns me about his being prone to getting injured for an long period of time. Yes, he is good at getting the ball out of his hands, but is that enough.
Common mistake I've heard over and over is that Mac Jones isn't athletic. That's not a fair evaluation. His footwork and pocket movement are awesome. And he's a better athlete than Jimmy G. It may not seem that way based on how they look in a uniform but it's the truth
— Chris Simms (@CSimmsQB) March 30, 2021
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
Super excited to hit the field with this guy tomoro! @MacJones_10 is a pro. The way he prepares. The way he trains. The way he carries himself. No detail is missed!
— QB Country (@QBCountry) March 30, 2021
Proud of who you are and how you work Mac! Let's have some fun tomorrow! 👊 pic.twitter.com/XbGWkkEoAt