Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
The QB might outlast Kyle, drafting a QB at #3 with what we gave up, the QB should be close to scheme-irrelevant.

I am not saying that scheme does not matter but we should not be just picking a guy who can best execute "Kyle's scheme". I want the QB who has the traits to run most schemes at an elite level.

That is what an organization would do if it had strong ownership and a strong general manager.

But Kyle has the most power in this organization.

Originally posted by SD49er:
Serious question, why do we really care about pro days? Don't real player evaluators watch film? Isn't film the most important aspect of the evaluation, followed by an investigation of who the person is? The person's make up? I watched Jones' pro day and his physical traits are underwhelming. I then watch some film breakdown videos and he appears to execute the offense as is intended, including making big time throws. I don't have a horse in this race but the obsession with the physical appearance and athleticism seems to be incredibly overrated. Do we want a guy who executes the offense, or a guy who can make plays with his feet? We have recency bias because of Mahomes' (and Wilson's) special ability to do both. But I want a guy who plays quarterback from the pocket. Any additional athletic skills are bonus in my opinion. Again, I am not saying Jones lack of physical talent is not risky, or not to be evaluated. It must be evaluated. I just don't know why evaluators truly care about the pro day when they have film to review, or why we as fans should discount Jones because he does not look as good as these other qbs in shorts and without defenders.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

If you're a fan of the #49ers, I would think you trust Kyle Shanahan has a better idea of the kind of quarterback he wants to run his system than anyone else — and that includes you and me.

— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) March 30, 2021

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Originally posted by AceDuce49:
Ol' salami tits not looking good.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

If you're a fan of the #49ers, I would think you trust Kyle Shanahan has a better idea of the kind of quarterback he wants to run his system than anyone else — and that includes you and me.

— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) March 30, 2021

💯

Dude has quadrupled down. Might want to take heed.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Imagine telling any offensive minded headcoach who their quarterback should be.

If Jed tried that the response should be "f**k you and I quit!"

Shanahan would be the hottest HC candidate by far next offseason. On the plus side, Hue Jackson would be available for the 49ers.

Originally posted by AceDuce49:
Ol' salami tits not looking good.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by SD49er:
Serious question, why do we really care about pro days? Don't real player evaluators watch film? Isn't film the most important aspect of the evaluation, followed by an investigation of who the person is? The person's make up? I watched Jones' pro day and his physical traits are underwhelming. I then watch some film breakdown videos and he appears to execute the offense as is intended, including making big time throws. I don't have a horse in this race but the obsession with the physical appearance and athleticism seems to be incredibly overrated. Do we want a guy who executes the offense, or a guy who can make plays with his feet? We have recency bias because of Mahomes' (and Wilson's) special ability to do both. But I want a guy who plays quarterback from the pocket. Any additional athletic skills are bonus in my opinion. Again, I am not saying Jones lack of physical talent is not risky, or not to be evaluated. It must be evaluated. I just don't know why evaluators truly care about the pro day when they have film to review, or why we as fans should discount Jones because he does not look as good as these other qbs in shorts and without defenders.

Mobility and pocket passing ability must both be evaluated.

To discount one or the other is ignoring everything that has happened in the past 2-3 years.

And no, I dont care that the greatest QB of all time Brady won a Superbowl recently. He is on his way out. There will never be another Tom Brady that plays exactly like him. The next great QB in the next 15-20 years will be a dual threat. Looks like its Mahomes for now.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Imagine telling any offensive minded headcoach who their quarterback should be.

If Jed tried that the response should be "f**k you and I quit!"

Shanahan would be the hottest HC candidate by far next offseason. On the plus side, Hue Jackson would be available for the 49ers.

Why he left Cleveland. Would have rathered Cousins over RGIII as well if I'm not mistaken

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
The QB might outlast Kyle, drafting a QB at #3 with what we gave up, the QB should be close to scheme-irrelevant.

I am not saying that scheme does not matter but we should not be just picking a guy who can best execute "Kyle's scheme". I want the QB who has the traits to run most schemes at an elite level.

That is what an organization would do if it had strong ownership and a strong general manager.

But Kyle has the most power in this organization.

Imagine telling any offensive minded headcoach who their quarterback should be.

If Jed tried that, the response should be "f**k you and I quit!"

Shanahan would be the hottest HC candidate by far next offseason. On the plus side, Hue Jackson would be available for the 49ers.

Originally posted by GoldenJoe:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Imagine telling any offensive minded headcoach who their quarterback should be.

If Jed tried that the response should be "f**k you and I quit!"

Shanahan would be the hottest HC candidate by far next offseason. On the plus side, Hue Jackson would be available for the 49ers.

Why he left Cleveland. Would have rathered Cousins over RGIII as well if I'm not mistaken

Made RGIII the rookie of the year. RGIII had an ego and didn't want to be coached.

Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
Made RGIII the rookie of the year. RGIII had an ego and didn't want to be coached.

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

If you're a fan of the #49ers, I would think you trust Kyle Shanahan has a better idea of the kind of quarterback he wants to run his system than anyone else — and that includes you and me.

— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) March 30, 2021

💯

Dude has quadrupled down. Might want to take heed.

Lol. Not.