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Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
You also don't give up the capital we did to draft a guy who does not have elite tools. I love Kyle but we are looking for our franchise QB for the next decade.
Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lol Kyle's seen this show before
Another overthrow by Mac Jones and this time a reaction by Kyle Shanahan...pic.twitter.com/ccP0RIpHm3
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) March 30, 2021
Shanahan has the look like he just s**t in his pants.
Originally posted by jcs:Yes but most importantly a 6.88 on the three cones at the Combine.
Mahomes ran a 4.8
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by SD49er:
Serious question, why do we really care about pro days? Don't real player evaluators watch film? Isn't film the most important aspect of the evaluation, followed by an investigation of who the person is? The person's make up? I watched Jones' pro day and his physical traits are underwhelming. I then watch some film breakdown videos and he appears to execute the offense as is intended, including making big time throws. I don't have a horse in this race but the obsession with the physical appearance and athleticism seems to be incredibly overrated. Do we want a guy who executes the offense, or a guy who can make plays with his feet? We have recency bias because of Mahomes' (and Wilson's) special ability to do both. But I want a guy who plays quarterback from the pocket. Any additional athletic skills are bonus in my opinion. Again, I am not saying Jones lack of physical talent is not risky, or not to be evaluated. It must be evaluated. I just don't know why evaluators truly care about the pro day when they have film to review, or why we as fans should discount Jones because he does not look as good as these other qbs in shorts and without defenders.
Mobility and pocket passing ability must both be evaluated.
To discount one or the other is ignoring everything that has happened in the past 2-3 years.
And no, I dont care that the greatest QB of all time Brady won a Superbowl recently. He is on his way out. There will never be another Tom Brady that plays exactly like him. The next great QB in the next 15-20 years will be a dual threat. Looks like its Mahomes for now.
Mahomes ran a 4.8
Look at the fear on Kyle Shanahan's stupid face as Mac Jones sails another one pic.twitter.com/wqyjKfUX0J
— BrianCatNFL (@BrianCatNFL) March 30, 2021
Originally posted by Stanley:
Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
You also don't give up the capital we did to draft a guy who does not have elite tools. I love Kyle but we are looking for our franchise QB for the next decade.
Is the mind an elite tool? Something only Kyle is privy too when scouting all these QB's. I could care less if my QB ran 4.3. Can he run the offense? That's the question.
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by SD49er:
Serious question, why do we really care about pro days? Don't real player evaluators watch film? Isn't film the most important aspect of the evaluation, followed by an investigation of who the person is? The person's make up? I watched Jones' pro day and his physical traits are underwhelming. I then watch some film breakdown videos and he appears to execute the offense as is intended, including making big time throws. I don't have a horse in this race but the obsession with the physical appearance and athleticism seems to be incredibly overrated. Do we want a guy who executes the offense, or a guy who can make plays with his feet? We have recency bias because of Mahomes' (and Wilson's) special ability to do both. But I want a guy who plays quarterback from the pocket. Any additional athletic skills are bonus in my opinion. Again, I am not saying Jones lack of physical talent is not risky, or not to be evaluated. It must be evaluated. I just don't know why evaluators truly care about the pro day when they have film to review, or why we as fans should discount Jones because he does not look as good as these other qbs in shorts and without defenders.
Mobility and pocket passing ability must both be evaluated.
To discount one or the other is ignoring everything that has happened in the past 2-3 years.
And no, I dont care that the greatest QB of all time Brady won a Superbowl recently. He is on his way out. There will never be another Tom Brady that plays exactly like him. The next great QB in the next 15-20 years will be a dual threat. Looks like its Mahomes for now.
Mahomes ran a 4.8
Originally posted by AceDuce49:
Ol' salami tits not looking good.
Originally posted by Stanley:
Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
You also don't give up the capital we did to draft a guy who does not have elite tools. I love Kyle but we are looking for our franchise QB for the next decade.
Is the mind an elite tool? Something only Kyle is privy too when scouting all these QB's. I could care less if my QB ran 4.3. Can he run the offense? That's the question.
Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
Originally posted by Stanley:
Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
You also don't give up the capital we did to draft a guy who does not have elite tools. I love Kyle but we are looking for our franchise QB for the next decade.
Is the mind an elite tool? Something only Kyle is privy too when scouting all these QB's. I could care less if my QB ran 4.3. Can he run the offense? That's the question.
Better not be your only elite tool. Alex aced the Wonderlic too. Rosen had great processing speed, so did Bradford. You need the arm and legs to do what your brain tells them and the ability to actually pull it off. You can know where the right throw is, most pro QBs do, can you physically make it?
Originally posted by boomer49er:
Originally posted by Stanley:
Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
You also don't give up the capital we did to draft a guy who does not have elite tools. I love Kyle but we are looking for our franchise QB for the next decade.
Is the mind an elite tool? Something only Kyle is privy too when scouting all these QB's. I could care less if my QB ran 4.3. Can he run the offense? That's the question.
JT O'Sullivan knew how to read defenses and where to go, he just didn't have the tools to get it done. Give me the tools and I'll make the offense fit.