Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by 4ML:
Well, we are in this situation bc we traded for Jimmy and gave him a massive contract. If not Jimmy - we would have done the same with Kirk - and I think we would have been in exact same spot if had Kirk instead of Jimmy.

Everyone can make mistakes - QB gurus as well. If we go with this standard - then pretty much all coaches know more and better than pretty much every fan and reporter - and we shouldn't question them at all.

Disagree. If Garoppolo could just stay healthy, we wouldn't be in this spot at all. One thing you can't say about Cousins is that he misses game, dude is rock solid.

I still think Mac Is the guy selected. Did he have a few overthrows on the deep ball today? Yes, but he showed in college he can consistently hit the deep ball. I would rather see a guy slightly overthrow it deep than underthrow it on his pro day. I don't put that much stock in Pro days but If Kyle currently has two guys who he ranks very close together and he is still debating on who he wants. Then Mac Probably didn't help himself today.

Originally posted by Bloodless:
I still think Mac Is the guy selected. Did he have a few overthrows on the deep ball today? Yes, but he showed in college he can consistently hit the deep ball. I would rather see a guy slightly overthrow it deep than underthrow it on his pro day. I don't put that much stock in Pro days but If Kyle currently has two guys who he ranks very close together and he is still debating on who he wants. Then Mac Probably didn't help himself today.

They get up to five Zoom meetings with all of these prospects and I'm guessing that they'll use all five with Fields, Lance and Jones.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by KID9R:
That makes sense....

All strong armed QBs are busts. Everybody knows that.
Even Mahomes and Allen.

i didn't intend that to be snark.

I actually like Jeff George and think he could have been Dan Marino level if he landed in the right place.

I was agreeing with you in that 3 first rounders in a single player, needs to be super elite physical tools. I would want Jeff George's arm with Joe Montana's brain.

My bad, apologies.

This is getting so fun. Kyle could do so much with any of these guys.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Everyone tryna figure out which QB diet plan is best for KS's system...

I think he's bringing him in to train McGlinchey how to eat.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Well, we are in this situation bc we traded for Jimmy and gave him a massive contract. If not Jimmy - we would have done the same with Kirk - and I think we would have been in exact same spot if had Kirk instead of Jimmy.

Everyone can make mistakes - QB gurus as well. If we go with this standard - then pretty much all coaches know more and better than pretty much every fan and reporter - and we shouldn't question them at all.

Disagree. If Garoppolo could just stay healthy, we wouldn't be in this spot at all. One thing you can't say about Cousins is that he misses game, dude is rock solid.

I think both Jimmy and Kirk are above average QBs - but neither are players who can win a game in playoffs if the defense and the run game is off. If Jimmy was healthy last season - I think - our FO would be considering what should be do about the QB situation. Should be give Jimmy another year or make a move and get our franchise QB now.

In short - I don't think it's just about the injuries.

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Well, we are in this situation bc we traded for Jimmy and gave him a massive contract. If not Jimmy - we would have done the same with Kirk - and I think we would have been in exact same spot if had Kirk instead of Jimmy.

Everyone can make mistakes - QB gurus as well. If we go with this standard - then pretty much all coaches know more and better than pretty much every fan and reporter - and we shouldn't question them at all.

Disagree. If Garoppolo could just stay healthy, we wouldn't be in this spot at all. One thing you can't say about Cousins is that he misses game, dude is rock solid.

I think both Jimmy and Kirk are above average QBs - but neither are players who can win a game in playoffs if the defense and the run game is off. If Jimmy was healthy last season - I think - our FO would be considering what should be do about the QB situation. Should be give Jimmy another year or make a move and get our franchise QB now.

In short - I don't think it's just about the injuries.

Apparently, neither is Mahomes or Wilson either.

Originally posted by 4ML:
I think both Jimmy and Kirk are above average QBs - but neither are players who can win a game in playoffs if the defense and the run game is off. If Jimmy was healthy last season - I think - our FO would be considering what should be do about the QB situation. Should be give Jimmy another year or make a move and get our franchise QB now.

In short - I don't think it's just about the injuries.

Its definitely more about the injuries. If Garoppolo stays healthy and plays last season the way he played in 2019, then the 49ers are neither in position to trade up into the Top 5 for a QB, nor are they looking to do so. We'd be talking about drafting a QB late in the draft to replace Beathard.

You can't trust Garoppolo to stay healthy, that is a really bad thing for your franchise QB since there's always a significant dropoff from starter to back up. If Cousins were the QB, I don't think that is an issue and Cousins just had a monster season for Minnesota. He wasn't one of the Top 30 things wrong with that team.

but neither are players who can win a game in playoffs if the defense and the run game is off.

Exactly who are these mythical QB's that can win without a defense or run game? It isn't Rodgers, Mahomes, Watson or even Brady.

Originally posted by NCommand:
How YOU doing?

I couldn't BE any better!

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Well, we are in this situation bc we traded for Jimmy and gave him a massive contract. If not Jimmy - we would have done the same with Kirk - and I think we would have been in exact same spot if had Kirk instead of Jimmy.

Everyone can make mistakes - QB gurus as well. If we go with this standard - then pretty much all coaches know more and better than pretty much every fan and reporter - and we shouldn't question them at all.

Disagree. If Garoppolo could just stay healthy, we wouldn't be in this spot at all. One thing you can't say about Cousins is that he misses game, dude is rock solid.

I think both Jimmy and Kirk are above average QBs - but neither are players who can win a game in playoffs if the defense and the run game is off. If Jimmy was healthy last season - I think - our FO would be considering what should be do about the QB situation. Should be give Jimmy another year or make a move and get our franchise QB now.

In short - I don't think it's just about the injuries.

We got beat when we were at our best by playmaking QBs. Lamar Jackson Russ and Mahomes.

We had a QB that could run the playbook but we got beat in that Super Bowl because KC had a game breaker at QB that could bend a defense to his will AND WE DIDNT and that had to be a hard pill to swallow for ShanaLynch as we thought we could scheme our way to a chip with a pocket passer and we got shown up when it counted

I don't want to see that happen to us ever again when we are picking at three and considering we've give up three first rd picks to do this

We better be getting a game breaker at this pick or else!

Originally posted by Joecool:
Kyle prefers a pocket QB over a runner. He's not going to draft a project at #3. Whoever he drafts, we know that one of these two things will happen.

1. Drafts Mac = Jimmy traded.
2. Drafts someone else = Jimmy stays.

Jimmy traded before draft = Draft Mac

Originally posted by NCommand:
Apparently, neither is Mahomes or Wilson either.

Both those QBs embarrassed our defense at its finest in 2019

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
We got beat when we were at our best by playmaking QBs. Lamar Jackson Russ and Mahomes.

We had a QB that could run the playbook but we got beat in that Super Bowl because KC had a game breaker at QB that could bend a defense to his will AND WE DIDNT and that had to be a hard pill to swallow for ShanaLynch as we thought we could scheme our way to a chip with a pocket passer and we got shown up when it counted

I don't want to see that happen to us ever again when we are picking at three and considering we've give up three first rd picks to do this

We better be getting a game breaker at this pick or else!

What happened to Lamar Jackson in the playoffs each time he's been there? What has Wilson won without an all-time great defense? Didn't Mahomes just lose to a 90 year old QB that you could probably beat in a 100 meter dash?