Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Who the hell is still rooting for him to be the pick in here?

Seriously are there people in here that think he's worth 3 1sts rd picks? I mean what are we doing?

Why are you so exercised over what other people think?

It's a fair question, I want to know who here honestly thinks he's worth 3 1sts picks?

Kyle Shanahan

Originally posted by NYniner85:
It's a fair question, I want to know who here honestly thinks he's worth 3 1sts picks?

What difference does it make? It only matters if Shanahan feels that he is worth that much and none of us are in a position to state definitively what he thinks one way or another.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Hahaha

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— Stimmy G (@2Evan2Furious) March 30, 2021

dude has to put so much air under the ball to get it there because of the lack of velocity overall.

d = sin(2a) v^2/g

This is the projectile motion equation. d is maximized when a (the angle) is 45 degrees. If you go above 45 degrees, you LOSE horizontal distance.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
What difference does it make? It only matters if Shanahan feels that he is worth that much and none of us are in a position to state definitively what he thinks one way or another.

I'm not asking shanahan (i like too) I'm asking all the guys and gals in here...

Originally posted by Costanza:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Mac Jones - Jimmy G 2.0 lol

Jimmy is better than this dude.

Either you're part of the Jimmy Club or you haven't watched much of Jones.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'm not asking shanahan (i like too) I'm asking all the guys and gals in here...

To play devils advocate, I think he's worth it. Now what?

So who was the last good traditional pocket passes drafted in the NFL? Matt Stafford? Who has been what a top 15 QB over his career? He also has a cannon for an arm. So Jones probably doesn't have his upside. Whos next Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins and Jared Goff in terms of pocket passers? This isn't exactly a all time list.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
To play devils advocate, I think he's worth it. Now what?

Then I value your opinion in here much less...

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Then I value your opinion in here much less...

Cool. Can we move on now or what?

Originally posted by Jcool:
So who was the last good traditional pocket passes drafted in the NFL? Matt Stafford? Who has been what a top 15 QB over his career? He also has a cannon for an arm. So Jones probably doesn't have his upside. Whos next Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins and Jared Goff in terms of pocket passers? This isn't exactly a all time list.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
What difference does it make? It only matters if Shanahan feels that he is worth that much and none of us are in a position to state definitively what he thinks one way or another.

I'm not asking shanahan (i like too) I'm asking all the guys and gals in here...

The question as posed is meaningless, IMHO.

The worth of a player in a given draft is dependent upon the market that year for the player. That depends on the current state of QB situations in the entire league, and which teams are QB needy and where they are picking.

Moreover, the answer isn't knowable at this stage. No one will know until a few years from now.

If you're asking, in a vacuum, if a guy who isn't an elite athlete is worth that kind of investment, it depends on who. Peyton Manning is worth 10 first round picks. Couldn't run to save his life.

So again, the question isn't HONESTLY answerable in an objective sense.

Nor is it all that relevant, since Shanahan and Lynch are the ones making the call. Is it worth three firsts to them.

We'll see in a few weeks.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Cool. Can we move on now or what?

Move on to what? We have a month of this horse s**t talk left

Originally posted by Jcool:
So who was the last good traditional pocket passes drafted in the NFL? Matt Stafford? Who has been what a top 15 QB over his career? He also has a cannon for an arm. So Jones probably doesn't have his upside. Whos next Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins and Jared Goff in terms of pocket passers? This isn't exactly a all time list.

Interesting point to bring up.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Which was a response to what other people had posted earlier. Some are getting carried away with the Mac Jones bashing.

The lengths some are taking it to is embarrassing

Originally posted by Jcool:
So who was the last good traditional pocket passes drafted in the NFL? Matt Stafford? Who has been what a top 15 QB over his career? He also has a cannon for an arm. So Jones probably doesn't have his upside. Whos next Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins and Jared Goff in terms of pocket passers? This isn't exactly a all time list.

Who was the last great Air Raid QB before Mahomes? Who was the last great Oregon QB before Herbert? Who was the last great Ohio State QB period?

In the end you're looking at individuals and not some collective blob. It always only takes one player to change people's attitudes.