Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by 49erbrass:
I dont get all this hate towards Mac Jones. This guy broke the FBS record with a 77.4 completion percentage. His worst game he still completed 66% of his passes. He also avg 11 yds per pass so he is chucking it down the field too, its not just dink and dunk which you would expect with such a high completion percentage. Kyle wants accuracy and someone who can hit the big play consistently. Like it or not, Thats Mac Jones!

Mediocre arm, terrible athlete, played on one of the best (and best coached) offense's ever, got to sit around for 3 years and watch, low ceiling...

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by KID9R:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by KID9R:
Again, if you're using three first round picks yeah you better do ALL the work. Check and double check. But that doesn't mean they already didn't have their minds made up when they made the trade.
And yes, if I knew that Mac Jones was their favourite I absolutely would want them to keep looking and looking and looking and consider every option possible. But only if Mac Jones and Lance was their favourite.

I just heard from Kyle, he said Mac Jones and Trey Lance are their favorites.

What's your point?

The point is that they should do their due diligence on all of these prospects and I expect that they will. Nobody is out of the discussion. Most teams don't finalize their draft boards until a week before the draft so they've got time and hundreds of hours to check and double-check everything they need to.

Yes, we agree again. They are going to do ALL THE WORK. But they still have their 1A and 1B decided. It would have to take something extremely dramatic like some sort of legal problems IMO to change that.

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by 49erbrass:
I dont get all this hate towards Mac Jones. This guy broke the FBS record with a 77.4 completion percentage. His worst game he still completed 66% of his passes. He also avg 11 yds per pass so he is chucking it down the field too, its not just dink and dunk which you would expect with such a high completion percentage. Kyle wants accuracy and someone who can hit the big play consistently. Like it or not, Thats Mac Jones!

Mediocre arm, terrible athlete, played on one of the best (and best coached) offense's ever, got to sit around for 3 years and watch, low ceiling...

Nailed it.

Originally posted by KID9R:
Yes, we agree again. They are going to do ALL THE WORK. But they still have their 1A and 1B decided. It would have to take something extremely dramatic like some sort of legal problems IMO to change that.

So Mac Jones and Trey Lance it is then.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by KID9R:
Yes, we agree again. They are going to do ALL THE WORK. But they still have their 1A and 1B decided. It would have to take something extremely dramatic like some sort of legal problems IMO to change that.

So Mac Jones and Trey Lance it is then.

Just listened to Chris Simms podcast. I think its Mac Jones at pick #3.

Originally posted by DoseOfBosa:
The Chris Simms AMA from today is great breakdown of the 49er's situation at 3
I agree with everything he's saying -- first 40 minutes or so are all about 49ers and Jones, Fields, Lance

Yeah this is the podcast I listened to.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Just listened to Chris Simms podcast. I think its Mac Jones at pick #3.

he's very convincing

Originally posted by 49erbrass:
I dont get all this hate towards Mac Jones. This guy broke the FBS record with a 77.4 completion percentage. His worst game he still completed 66% of his passes. He also averaged 11.19 (2nd in FBS) yards per pass so he is chucking it down the field too, its not just dink and dunk which you would expect with such a high completion percentage. Kyle wants accuracy and someone who can hit the big play consistently. Like it or not, Thats Mac Jones!

nice first post!

I agree, the hate is mind-boggling to me
I think Mac Jones is a precise, accurate, smart QB like Rivers, Ryan, Manning, Brady

people are saying we need to go mobile because that's the direction the league is headed in, but Shanahan has admitted that he likes to zig when the rest of the league is zagging

and all of the efficient mobile QBs in today's NFL, are great passers first and foremost, with the exception of Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray - and the jury is still out on those two as far as I'm concerned - but Mahomes, Wilson, Allen, Rodgers, Watson, etc. are better passers than they are runners. Passing the football should be the most important attribute, not how well they run or what they look like

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by 49erbrass:
I dont get all this hate towards Mac Jones. This guy broke the FBS record with a 77.4 completion percentage. His worst game he still completed 66% of his passes. He also avg 11 yds per pass so he is chucking it down the field too, its not just dink and dunk which you would expect with such a high completion percentage. Kyle wants accuracy and someone who can hit the big play consistently. Like it or not, Thats Mac Jones!

Mediocre arm, terrible athlete, played on one of the best (and best coached) offense's ever, got to sit around for 3 years and watch, low ceiling...

his arm isn't mediocre at all, it's superb

terrible athlete? if anything he's mediocre but I'd say he's above average at worst. He's not as athletic as Fields or Lance, but that doesn't mean he's a terrible athlete

he played on a great team, how is that his fault?
and if he's drafted by the 49ers, guess what? he's going to have the #1 TE, #1 FB, #1 LT, one of the best OLs as a unit, 2 stud WR's... and one of the best offensive coaches

we're not a franchise starting over, we don't need a savior, we need someone to hit open receivers

and I don't understand why people say his ceiling is low? because he's not athletic?

Originally posted by DoseOfBosa:
The Chris Simms AMA from today is great breakdown of the 49er's situation at 3
I agree with everything he's saying -- first 40 minutes or so are all about 49ers and Jones, Fields, Lance

This dude has way too much conviction in his "prediction." He's spilling the beans again.

I understand it doesn't mean anything until we see him play. But if Fields is on the board and I hear Goodell say "Mac Jones" when it's our turn... that moment might be up there with me reading the notification on my phone that we've hired Tomsula as our HC. I don't know if I'm going to be able to stomach it

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I understand it doesn't mean anything until we see him play. But if Fields is on the board and I hear Goodell say "Mac Jones" when it's our turn... that moment might be up there with me reading the notification on my phone that we've hired Tomsula as our HC. I don't know if I'm going to be able to stomach it

do some research on Mac Jones, you have a month

that might help you stomach it

Originally posted by DoseOfBosa:

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by 49erbrass:
I dont get all this hate towards Mac Jones. This guy broke the FBS record with a 77.4 completion percentage. His worst game he still completed 66% of his passes. He also avg 11 yds per pass so he is chucking it down the field too, its not just dink and dunk which you would expect with such a high completion percentage. Kyle wants accuracy and someone who can hit the big play consistently. Like it or not, Thats Mac Jones!

Mediocre arm, terrible athlete, played on one of the best (and best coached) offense's ever, got to sit around for 3 years and watch, low ceiling...

his arm isn't mediocre at all, it's superb

terrible athlete? if anything he's mediocre but I'd say he's above average at worst. He's not as athletic as Fields or Lance, but that doesn't mean he's a terrible athlete

he played on a great team, how is that his fault?
and if he's drafted by the 49ers, guess what? he's going to have the #1 TE, #1 FB, #1 LT, one of the best OLs as a unit, 2 stud WR's... and one of the best offensive coaches

we're not a franchise starting over, we don't need a savior, we need someone to hit open receivers

and I don't understand why people say his ceiling is low? because he's not athletic?

He is a terrible athlete. Garroppolo esque.. hes a statue. His arm isnt superb either, it's very average.

Nothing wrong with playing on a great team, but the weapons, linemen and coaches around him created a very unique situation.. one where any quarterback would have found great success.

We have the 3rd overall pick. We will have 2 special talents to choose from be it Wilson, Lance or Fields. You can find a Mac Jones in any draft, the former 3 not so much.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by DoseOfBosa:
The Chris Simms AMA from today is great breakdown of the 49er's situation at 3
I agree with everything he's saying -- first 40 minutes or so are all about 49ers and Jones, Fields, Lance

This dude has way too much conviction in his "prediction." He's spilling the beans again.

Shanahan altready said he doesn't talk to Simms about football. Simms is giving his opinion. You really think the most important pick for shanahan and lynch is gonna be a guy who could've been there at 12? Do you really think shanahan is gonna tell Simms who he's gonna pick at 3? Cmon now. People need to stop acting like they know what shanahan and lynch are doing and be real.

Originally posted by KID9R:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by KID9R:
In my opinion I think this whole thing with Mac Jones has been a smokescreen and that he probably won't even be drafted in the top 10.
Put yourselves in John and Kyle's position. Let's assume that Kyle has found his dream quarterback, let's assume for discussion that this is Justin Fields 1A(could be Zack).
but to be able to trade to 3 John and Kyle have to have another quarterback grade out fairly closely to justify using three first round picks on him. So let's assume the other quarterback is Zach Wilson 1B.
So the risky part of only being able to trade to 3, is that you still can't control whether you get your 1A. So there's still no way you can give any hints as to who you actually want to draft. Because the Jets could always trade out, what if the Falcons really love Fields and they throw a blockbuster trade at the Jets? You have to make it so that the Falcons (or another team) feel that they could get Fields at 4. So that they don't try and put a deal together.
That's why Kyle, when asked why they're going to Alabama's pro day he says... " now that you move up to three you don't have to hide as much". When have you ever heard a coach or GM give a hint like that when they weren't guaranteed to get their guy? IMO they're trying to convince the league that Mac Jones is their guy so that no one jumps them.
Everybody knows the jags are taking Lawrence, do you hear the Jets making a peep about who they're taking?

If they love Fields and Wilson, they're getting one of the two no matter what happens. They are at these pro days because they are making sure they don't f this up.

Yup, that's what I said. But there's no way Kyle doesn't have a favorite. So why tip your hand and possibly provoke another team to jump you and take your 1A?

And every NFL team knows everything is a smokescreen, which means going to pro days mean very little.