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Originally posted by NYniner85:
No he actually doesn't have the best film. You want a guy who can get the ball where it needs to go, draft Davis Mills or keep Jimmy. You can find dudes every single yr that can run Kyle's QB friendly scheme. All 5 of these QBs can run this offense.
As far as competition...fun fact. Fields will have attempted the most passes vs top-50 FBS defenses of any QB drafted in the last decade.
Originally posted by GangstaGangsta:
Reports came out after we made the deal for the 3rd pick that for the past few weeks we have been in talks for the 4th, 5th and 6th pick but unable to reach a deal with those teams.
To me if the 49ers were comfortable with those picks then Mac has been their guy all along considering Fields has been the most sought after guy of the 3 remaining QBs.
Originally posted by DoseOfBosa:
his arm isn't mediocre at all, it's superb
terrible athlete? if anything he's mediocre but I'd say he's above average at worst. He's not as athletic as Fields or Lance, but that doesn't mean he's a terrible athlete
he played on a great team, how is that his fault?
and if he's drafted by the 49ers, guess what? he's going to have the #1 TE, #1 FB, #1 LT, one of the best OLs as a unit, 2 stud WR's... and one of the best offensive coaches
we're not a franchise starting over, we don't need a savior, we need someone to hit open receivers
and I don't understand why people say his ceiling is low? because he's not athletic?
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
. But listening to Chris Simms, and knowing Kyle is the boss there, it looks pretty clear that Kyle likes Mac vs the other two unfortunately.
The point about all the Mac Jones stuff is smoke and mirrors, I think doesn't hold water because I think neither Jaguars or Jets are going to trade out of their respective draft positions.
Chris Simms has NO IDEA who SF likes or is taking...did you not listen to the presser the other day? Kyle said (and went out of his way too) that he doesn't tell Simms s**t since he joined the media world....He said Simms can't keep his mouth shut and Simms doesn't even ask him anymore because Kyle doesn't tell him anything.
If it was Jones no matter what, why ask Fields to do another pro day? Why send half of your top end scouts and father there? Why get on a jet to Ohio yesterday? Why ask Lance for a second pro day as well?
Their conference the other day, made it sound like he's not gonna be the guy based on what they're looking for overall.
NO ONE knew SF was gonna move up to three, NO ONE knew they were looking at QBs this hard, everyone including the major insiders said Jimmy is the guy UNLESS Watson (at the time) would actually become an option. IF Watson was who they wanted, why is a player like Jones the fall back? Why did no one have a clue about this trade or them actually wanting a rookie QB? It's because SF doesn't talk, no leaks. So any "sources" at this point are full of it.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by GangstaGangsta:
Reports came out after we made the deal for the 3rd pick that for the past few weeks we have been in talks for the 4th, 5th and 6th pick but unable to reach a deal with those teams.
To me if the 49ers were comfortable with those picks then Mac has been their guy all along considering Fields has been the most sought after guy of the 3 remaining QBs.
Absolutely correct. You don't try to jump to 6 or 5 wanting fields. You jump up to 5 or 6 to prevent teams from jumping over you for jones.
Originally posted by Giedi:
I wish I could buy what you are saying because I think Kyle can dominate the NFL with Fields and his skill set. The problem i have is its was pretty clear Simms and Kyle are good friends and he was comfortable making jokes about Chris, and he listens to Chris' opinions.
If you look at Macs profile and Jimmys and for that matter Cousins, they look like triplets. Almost identical. They could have gone first to Fields pro day, or waited for his second pro day, but after the trade they go directly to Macs pro day. The Fields pro day seem to have been set up as an afterthought. Again I think there's been no final decision. But I think the needle is more than 80% leaning to Mac Jones.
"Trust me, Chris [Sims] talks about EVERYTHING. That's why I haven't told him anything in 2 years. That's why he doesn't ask anymore." -- Kyle Shanahan
— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) March 29, 2021
"He's attached to a lie detector like it's Meet the Parents!"
— Rich Eisen Show (@RichEisenShow) March 30, 2021
The Kyle Shanahan Truth Tour continued with QB talk about Kirk Cousins of all people and the ideal signal caller for his system:#NFL #NFLDraft #49ers pic.twitter.com/zNZzRjR06b
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Anyone who actually wants us to draft Jones, I hope you step on lego's.
I think ShanaLynch moved up to #3 *knowing* who they preferred as QB. Having said that, it's not a done deal. Lance and Fields still have a shot at being chosen, and I hope it's Fields myself. I think despite the rawness of Fields, his talent is worth it, and Jimmy is still there as a Mac clone if he doesn't . But listening to Chris Simms, and knowing Kyle is the boss there, it looks pretty clear that Kyle likes Mac vs the other two unfortunately.
The point about all the Mac Jones stuff is smoke and mirrors, I think doesn't hold water because I think neither Jaguars or Jets are going to trade out of their respective draft positions.
100% agree. Kyle needs to step on legos every day if he drafts Jones at 3. They have no reason to lie and he said as much.
You think Andy Reid would draft Jones over Fields or Lance? Hell no.
If Kyle is still this dumb then he is the Jim Kelly of coaches. Great enough to get you to a SB, but can never win it.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DoseOfBosa:
his arm isn't mediocre at all, it's superb
terrible athlete? if anything he's mediocre but I'd say he's above average at worst. He's not as athletic as Fields or Lance, but that doesn't mean he's a terrible athlete
he played on a great team, how is that his fault?
and if he's drafted by the 49ers, guess what? he's going to have the #1 TE, #1 FB, #1 LT, one of the best OLs as a unit, 2 stud WR's... and one of the best offensive coaches
we're not a franchise starting over, we don't need a savior, we need someone to hit open receivers
and I don't understand why people say his ceiling is low? because he's not athletic?
Lol his arm most certainly is a not superb .
The romanticism over Mac Jones is probably one of the grossest things I've read in a draft forum.
his ceiling is low because he had NO special traits. None.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DoseOfBosa:
his arm isn't mediocre at all, it's superb
terrible athlete? if anything he's mediocre but I'd say he's above average at worst. He's not as athletic as Fields or Lance, but that doesn't mean he's a terrible athlete
he played on a great team, how is that his fault?
and if he's drafted by the 49ers, guess what? he's going to have the #1 TE, #1 FB, #1 LT, one of the best OLs as a unit, 2 stud WR's... and one of the best offensive coaches
we're not a franchise starting over, we don't need a savior, we need someone to hit open receivers
and I don't understand why people say his ceiling is low? because he's not athletic?
Lol his arm most certainly is a not superb .
The romanticism over Mac Jones is probably one of the grossest things I've read in a draft forum.
his ceiling is low because he had NO special traits. None.
Originally posted by NYniner85:Chris isn't the only one though. Matt miocco is another on, and he's pretty credible too. Just stepping back and looking at *all* the stuff going on, it just seems to point in that direction. I hope I'm wrong, I'm a big Fields fan, and I agree physically he's top tier vs Mac Jones who probably is dead last in that area.
Originally posted by Giedi:
I wish I could buy what you are saying because I think Kyle can dominate the NFL with Fields and his skill set. The problem i have is its was pretty clear Simms and Kyle are good friends and he was comfortable making jokes about Chris, and he listens to Chris' opinions.
If you look at Macs profile and Jimmys and for that matter Cousins, they look like triplets. Almost identical. They could have gone first to Fields pro day, or waited for his second pro day, but after the trade they go directly to Macs pro day. The Fields pro day seem to have been set up as an afterthought. Again I think there's been no final decision. But I think the needle is more than 80% leaning to Mac Jones.
Holy f**k stop with the Chris Simms BS. You seriously think a team that has zero leaks is gonna go run and tell Simms?
"Trust me, Chris [Sims] talks about EVERYTHING. That's why I haven't told him anything in 2 years. That's why he doesn't ask anymore." -- Kyle Shanahan
— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) March 29, 2021
They went to Mac's pro day because it was his SECOND one. Fields' agent is setting up a second one specifically for SF lol . How's that hard to get?
Originally posted by Giedi:
I wish I could buy what you are saying because I think Kyle can dominate the NFL with Fields and his skill set. The problem i have is its was pretty clear Simms and Kyle are good friends and he was comfortable making jokes about Chris, and he listens to Chris' opinions.
If you look at Macs profile and Jimmys and for that matter Cousins, they look like triplets. Almost identical. They could have gone first to Fields pro day, or waited for his second pro day, but after the trade they go directly to Macs pro day. The Fields pro day seem to have been set up as an afterthought. Again I think there's been no final decision. But I think the needle is more than 80% leaning to Mac Jones.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Well he's a young coach. At this point at least he has one winning season, whereas Bellicheat at Kyle's age didn't have any winning seasons at all.
Reids loved mobile QBs. McNabb and Mahomes have very similar profiles. Unfortunately cousins and Mac have the same profiles too. And I was really hoping we'd get the second comming of Steve Young too. If kyle remains true to form, he's going to choose Mac. I'm hoping he's philosophically evolved to the point where he can choose Fields, but after Chris Simms podcast - I got really depressed about that eventuality ever happening.
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
NYniner - 762 posts of s**t talking in the Mac Jones thread
Nearly double the second highest poster LOL
Originally posted by crusher49er:
Agreed. Jones looked sloppy yesterday and had nonchalant body language. Add to the fact he had a dui, has a beer belly(bad social media pics). But people talk about him like he's this paragon of virtue with Tom Brady leadership skills and brains.
He's an average qb. Jimmy g like.
