Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
You obviously didnt read it. Hes talking about unconscious racism, not blatant. The idea that a quarterback looks a certain part so you assume certain things.

For example, Fields is better than Jones in literally every category, mentally as well, but Jones looks like a traditional quarterback and you attach certain stigmas with that.

A good example was that if Fields had a DUI and was fat like Jones, you would definitely hear about him being a potential head case and having character issues. You won't hear these things being an issue for Jones.

Wrong. Under pressure QB rating for Fields per PFF 54.1 and 123 for Jones. Multiple scouts have questioned Fields processing on the field.

Originally posted by 49erbrass:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I have yet to see a QB nuance breakdown like this for Wilson, Fields or Lance. If anyone has one, please let me know.

But it's THESE traits we know Kyle wants and is even more of a reason why he wants a QB to play within the structure of the play call for as long as humanly possible.

Zach Wilson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgKIhbdSf9o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB3RrKjWyrs

Justin Fields
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsGd8yBVQRc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe6jZ0BSiS4

Trey Lance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJUg69xqfhM

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
MD and I have stated many times in the past we don't judge solely off of youtube videos. Especially not highlights either. If you know where to look, you can view entire games. Been reviewing players a long time, man. I had no preconceived notions about any player going into this draft season. I watched guys, I looked for certain traits and how they handled certain situations. Didn't like what I saw with Fields in comparison.

No one's ever 100% right, but I have a very strong track record overall, I put in the time so I trust what I see. Just not a Fields fan. Maybe he'll be great. Who knows?

Originally posted by Stanley:

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
You obviously didnt read it. Hes talking about unconscious racism, not blatant. The idea that a quarterback looks a certain part so you assume certain things.

For example, Fields is better than Jones in literally every category, mentally as well, but Jones looks like a traditional quarterback and you attach certain stigmas with that.

A good example was that if Fields had a DUI and was fat like Jones, you would definitely hear about him being a potential head case and having character issues. You won't hear these things being an issue for Jones.

Unconscious bias, implicit bias. Stop it with that nonsense.

And then you back up your accusations with your own personal biased opinions and/or "lived experiences. No need to bring race into it, especially when pulling from CRT.

At the end of the day, no one knows the mental processing power better than the coaches who are interviewing these QB's. I don't care how fast someone runs or how big they are, I don't want the front office sacrificing any mental capabilities for athletic ability, no matter the race of the QB. Or do you assume being colorblind is racist too?

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Wrong. Under pressure QB rating for Fields per PFF 54.1 and 123 for Jones. Multiple scouts have questioned Fields processing on the field.

Originally posted by pdc20:
I think he´s as athletic as Stafford yes. The only problem is that Stafford as a machine gun in his right arm.^^

Originally posted by 49erbrass:

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Wrong. Under pressure QB rating for Fields per PFF 54.1 and 123 for Jones. Multiple scouts have questioned Fields processing on the field.

Id just like to add Fields avg time to pass was 3.1 seconds. Thats not happening in the NFL...

Originally posted by NCommand:
TY, I look forward to see the nuances in here!

Originally posted by tommyncal:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by tommyncal:
Wait, you just s**t on NY for 'wasting energy' for posting his thoughts as people reply to them and you just spent who knows how much f**king time counting his posts from the beginning of the thread ???

what? its one click on the subforum main page. calm down dude.

I didn't know that. Thanks
I'm not upset, so no need to calm down, dude.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by GangstaGangsta:

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by pdc20:

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by pdc20:

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Webzone article playing the race card now in the Jones vs Fields debate now. It was only a matter of time

I read it and it has to be one of the worst articles I ´ve ever seen.
You really think Mac Jones is seeing as the choice for the niners by the medias because he is white? Really?

You obviously didnt read it. Hes talking about unconscious racism, not blatant. The idea that a quarterback looks a certain part so you assume certain things.

For example, Fields is better than Jones in literally every category, mentally as well, but Jones looks like a traditional quarterback and you attach certain stigmas with that.

A good example was that if Fields had a DUI and was fat like Jones, you would definitely hear about him being a potential head case and having character issues. You won't hear these things being an issue for Jones.

The medias think Mac Jones is the third pick because it´s Shanahan and he has a type with QBs based on history, that´s it.
Stop seeing racism everywhere.
And by the way most of them are already questioning us for supposedly taking Jones and not Fields or Lance.

Seeing a clear bias when a nearly impeccable Fields is dragged through the mud for two "bad games" and a false notion that he's dumb is not seeing racism everywhere.

Once again, do you think if Fields was fat and had a DUI it would be an issue? We all know it would dominate the draft talk and he would likely fall to the 2nd round. With Jones, it's not s story... and if the DUI is ever publicized, it will be a story of redemption and how he found God or some b******t.

We both know that.

I agree that was one of the worst articles I've read on the webzone.

I'm black and would prefer Jones over Fields, probably because I'm racist right?

I'm black too, you dont get points for that or a pat on the back. If you dont got anything constructive to add you might as well post somewhere else smh.

His point is that he disagreed that there is any racial bias. No need to attack him, man. I agree with him, I've watched all the quarterbacks in this class. Fields is #5 on the list for me solely due to his film. The way he looked when blitzed was especially troubling. He seemed like the worst among the top 5 guys with handling the blitz. That knocked him down a lot in my eyes.

"watched film" = found some youtube video to prop up preconceived notions.

MD and I have stated many times in the past we don't judge solely off of youtube videos. Especially not highlights either. If you know where to look, you can view entire games. Been reviewing players a long time, man. I had no preconceived notions about any player going into this draft season. I watched guys, I looked for certain traits and how they handled certain situations. Didn't like what I saw with Fields in comparison.

No one's ever 100% right, but I have a very strong track record overall, I put in the time so I trust what I see. Just not a Fields fan. Maybe he'll be great. Who knows?

Originally posted by 49erbrass:
You`re welcome sir, Some very good content there.

Originally posted by 49erbrass:

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Wrong. Under pressure QB rating for Fields per PFF 54.1 and 123 for Jones. Multiple scouts have questioned Fields processing on the field.

Id just like to add Fields avg time to pass was 3.1 seconds. Thats not happening in the NFL...

Originally posted by NCommand:
Well done Bonilla.

Exactly.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/145888-schefter-weighs-49ers-rookie-choices-jimmy-garoppolos-future/