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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
It was a very valid and reasonable debate between trading the farm for Fields/Wilson/Lance and staying put at 12 for Jones. Jones is absolutely a first round prospect and so the question was are these others THAT much better that it is worth trading up. Now, however, the conversation for many has switched from "Jones can do anything Shanny asks and do it well enough," to "Jones is the only QB who can do what Shanny asks.". That's kind of what I was aluding to with the Superman comment ..sure Kirk can do what we need and can likely win a lot of games...but wouldn't we rather Aaron Rodgers do it instead? Now sure, there may or may not be an Aaron Rodgers in this draft, but Jones has clearly been annointed by some as Kirk Cousins at worst.

It goes both ways, but it's okay to think Jones is good but someone else better. But the hyperbole, my god. We got posters saying Mac has a faster release than Jimmy G? And the way these media talking heads are pushing Mac, he should be #1 OA pick....except the one narrative that must trump all is T.Law being the best prospect ever

There is not a chance in hell that Jones would be there at 12. All five are going top 10.

I think it is only 50 50 that there will be 5 QBs drafted in the top 10.
Originally posted by libertyforever:
I think it is only 50 50 that there will be 5 QBs drafted in the top 10.

Math checks out
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Originally posted by GangstaGangsta:
Originally posted by mayo49:
I'm back on the Mac bandwagon.

Welcome back Mayo!

This is where I stand:

I think we are going Mac.

My preference is Wilson/Lawrence.

If it is between Mac and Fields, who I would like us to draft depends on if Kyle is able to put his pride aside and open up the playbook or allow for more off schedule plays. If we draft Mac it will be because Kyle wants an extension of himself to run HIS offense.

I would hate to see us draft Fields and Kyle put those handcuffs on him. If we draft Fields Kyle NEEDS to let him play his game. To me Fields is at his best when he goes off script.

If we go Fields we have to let him take chances.

If we go Jones we will run the same timing based pass plays we have been running for the past few years.
[ Edited by GangstaGangsta on Apr 1, 2021 at 6:35 AM ]
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by GangstaGangsta:
Originally posted by mayo49:
I'm back on the Mac bandwagon.

Welcome back Mayo!


Originally posted by GangstaGangsta:
This is where I stand:

I think we are going Mac.

My preference is Wilson/Lawrence.

If it is between Mac and Fields, who I would like us to draft depends on if Kyle is able to put his pride aside and open up the playbook or allow for more off schedule plays. If we draft Mac it will be because Kyle wants an extension of himself to run HIS offense.

I would hate to see us draft Fields and Kyle put those handcuffs on him. If we draft Fields Kyle NEEDS to let him play his game. To me Fields is at his best when he goes off script.

If we go Fields we have to let him take chances.

If we go Jones we will run the same timing based pass plays we have been running for the past few years.

I couldn't agree more
Originally posted by mayo49:
I'm back on the Mac bandwagon.
Then I guess you will enjoy last place because Mac Jones is gonna get exposed in the NFL and he is nothing but another Daniel Jones. The niners better draft fields or lance if not they will be fired in a couple years.
Today's my Friday and I'm cracking my first beer before noon, so I'm back on the Jones bandwagon.
Mac's ceiling is Jared Goff. 0% chance he ever becomes a top 5 QB in the league. Does anyone believe that's worth 3 first round picks?
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Mac's ceiling is Jared Goff. 0% chance he ever becomes a top 5 QB in the league. Does anyone believe that's worth 3 first round picks?

Damn you have lottery numbers man? Seems like you can see the future.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Here's a nice video of Mac training for the draft.

https://www.nfl.com/videos/mac-jones-how-an-elite-qb-prospect-trains-for-the-draft

There's a hidden ad in there. This guy already nailing down endorsements.
Originally posted by GangstaGangsta:
This is where I stand:

I think we are going Mac.

My preference is Wilson/Lawrence.

If it is between Mac and Fields, who I would like us to draft depends on if Kyle is able to put his pride aside and open up the playbook or allow for more off schedule plays. If we draft Mac it will be because Kyle wants an extension of himself to run HIS offense.

I would hate to see us draft Fields and Kyle put those handcuffs on him. If we draft Fields Kyle NEEDS to let him play his game. To me Fields is at his best when he goes off script.

If we go Fields we have to let him take chances.

If we go Jones we will run the same timing based pass plays we have been running for the past few years.

The bold says it all. Kyle is a HC today because of his play calling. The QB is simply an extension of the amount of work and effort he puts into game planning and play calling. Execute MY gameplan. There's a reason I called that play...often times, to set up another. He's so locked in on control of his offense, it's the C that makes all the protection calls; just one more thing off the QB's plate so he can direct the QB on the sideline.

If he goes the Fields route, there's a very real chance he loses a lot of control of his own offense. And he might be OK with that now.

But remember the comments he made about not wanting RGIII and Kaepernick? Because he'd have to redesign his offense around the QB and not the offense? That if he did that, he'd have to change it for the other 10 players too and that wouldn't be fair?

Here we are. It's 2021. What is Kyle going to do???
[ Edited by NCommand on Apr 1, 2021 at 6:49 AM ]
It is so nice to have so many close personal friends of Kyle in here to report on how he thinks and feels about everything at all times.
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Originally posted by AceDuce49:
Today's my Friday and I'm cracking my first beer before noon, so I'm back on the Jones bandwagon.

Same, I cycle through the three QB's about once every four days.
Originally posted by Scorgasms:
Originally posted by mayo49:
I'm back on the Mac bandwagon.
Then I guess you will enjoy last place because Mac Jones is gonna get exposed in the NFL and he is nothing but another Daniel Jones. The niners better draft fields or lance if not they will be fired in a couple years.

Daniel Jones is a mobil guy who makes off schedule plays. His weaknesses are the things McKorkle is best at, and his strengths are what McKorkle is worst at. This is a laughable comparison. What do they have in common besides being white? Daniel isn't even fat.
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