Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
To an extent, if you have the right guy. Most QBs -- the vast majority -- never improve more than incrementally at the mental side of the position. Certainly not before their thirties usually.

That said, there are some exceptions (Steve Young, John Elway), and more importantly, there are things you can do schematically that make that less of an important factor.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Comparisons so far:

Wilson = Mahomes
Jones = Manning
Lance = Elway
Fields = ???

Originally posted by Bloodless:
Brady is the exception in the sense that he was a 6th rounder who became the best QB in NFL history. He is not the exception when it comes to pocket passers who are said by everyone to not have high ceilings having success in the NFL. 17 of the last 20 QBs who won the superbowl were pure pocket passers. All of the 17 by the way were less mobile then Mac Jones. Mahomes, Rodgers and Russel Willson are the only mobile qbs to win a Superbowl the last 20 years and they each have only won one. Mobile Qbs are here to stay in the NFL and I will admit there has not been really good pocket Qbs drafted recently. But lets not pretend pocket QBs are no longer getting it done in the NFL.

Originally posted by 49erbrass:
You cant listen to anybody but the people who do this for living and I'm not talking about reporters either. I'm talking about real NFL executives, coaches and scouts. This reminds me of the time we took Aldon Smith and everyone was like who, wtf? He only ended up being the most Dynamic pass rusher in NFL to begin his career. Just remember that all of you armchair GMs.

Originally posted by 49erbrass:
You cant listen to anybody but the people who do this for living and I'm not talking about reporters either. I'm talking about real NFL executives, coaches and scouts. This reminds me of the time we took Aldon Smith and everyone was like who, wtf? He only ended up being the most Dynamic pass rusher in NFL to begin his career. Just remember that all of you armchair GMs.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Comparisons so far:

Wilson = Mahomes
Jones = Manning
Lance = Elway
Fields = ???

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Comparisons so far:

Wilson = Mahomes
Jones = Manning
Lance = Elway
Fields = ???

Gotta aim high. Wait. Jones is Eli right?

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Comparisons so far:

Wilson = Mahomes
Jones = Manning
Lance = Elway
Fields = ???

A lot of people are saying McNair.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
My unpopular opinion Von Miller was better

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Comparisons so far:

Wilson = Mahomes
Jones = Manning
Lance = Elway
Fields = ???

A lot of people are saying McNair.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Comparisons so far:

Wilson = Mahomes
Jones = Manning
Lance = Elway
Fields = ???

A lot of people are saying McNair.

Originally posted by 49erbrass:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
My unpopular opinion Von Miller was better

You turned out to be right though. Would have loved to see how that played out if Aldon kept his s**t together. That was a great class...

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
To an extent, if you have the right guy. Most QBs -- the vast majority -- never improve more than incrementally at the mental side of the position. Certainly not before their thirties usually.

That said, there are some exceptions (Steve Young, John Elway), and more importantly, there are things you can do schematically that make that less of an important factor.

That's not true at all...a 21 yr old QB prospect is NOT close to mentally finished as a player.

as long as you're willing to let him sit and learn, have the proper coaching staff, and roster in place this isn't an issue.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Comparisons so far:

Wilson = Mahomes
Jones = Manning
Lance = Elway
Fields = ???

A lot of people are saying McNair.

McNair had bigger numbers in college.