Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Overall, Jones deals with pressure well, but he's not going to create plays when the protection breaks down. I don't believe all quarterbacks have to be out-of-structure maestros, even in today's NFL, but if you're exclusively a pocket passer, you should have amazing arm talent to make up for it. Jones is a below-average athlete with a below-average arm and very good accuracy. If you draft him in the first round, you're betting that his mind can develop into Brady or Drew Brees-like mastery, because his intelligence will ultimately be what can separate him. His physical ability gives him little room for error.

https://theathletic.com/2448030/2021/04/02/mac-jones-film-analysis-not-overly-athletic-his-arms-not-elite-but-hes-an-excellent-pocket-passer/

Originally posted by Jcool:

Overall, Jones deals with pressure well, but he's not going to create plays when the protection breaks down. I don't believe all quarterbacks have to be out-of-structure maestros, even in today's NFL, but if you're exclusively a pocket passer, you should have amazing arm talent to make up for it. Jones is a below-average athlete with a below-average arm and very good accuracy. If you draft him in the first round, you're betting that his mind can develop into Brady or Drew Brees-like mastery, because his intelligence will ultimately be what can separate him. His physical ability gives him little room for error.

https://theathletic.com/2448030/2021/04/02/mac-jones-film-analysis-not-overly-athletic-his-arms-not-elite-but-hes-an-excellent-pocket-passer/

Sounds like you are describing Jimmy G and he was a 2nd round pick.

Catch yal on draft night lol. I will be severely disappointed if Mac Jones is the pick but im gonna root for whoever plays for SF.

3 X 1st picks for Mc Jones... 🤮🤮🤮

Originally posted by hubbyt:
Catch yal on draft night lol. I will be severely disappointed if Mac Jones is the pick but im gonna root for whoever plays for SF.

OK ok... But 3 X 1 st picks... No no no no... It's. Madness... 😵... It's. looks desperate... Mc Jones... Really...🤢

Some interesting comments here and there in this thread

Why is Mac Jones considered most pro ready?

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Nope. 272, 218, 308 yds rushing. 200-300 yds is hardly an immobile pocket guy.Think Brady-esque, less than 120 ydsseason. 8yds per game roughly.

LOL. That's nothing.

Zactly, Brady is the definitive pocket passer. Mahomes 300% more rushing yards

Originally posted by Jcool:

Overall, Jones deals with pressure well, but he's not going to create plays when the protection breaks down. I don't believe all quarterbacks have to be out-of-structure maestros, even in today's NFL, but if you're exclusively a pocket passer, you should have amazing arm talent to make up for it. Jones is a below-average athlete with a below-average arm and very good accuracy. If you draft him in the first round, you're betting that his mind can develop into Brady or Drew Brees-like mastery, because his intelligence will ultimately be what can separate him. His physical ability gives him little room for error.

https://theathletic.com/2448030/2021/04/02/mac-jones-film-analysis-not-overly-athletic-his-arms-not-elite-but-hes-an-excellent-pocket-passer/

Times aregonna pass us by, there is a reason nobody really seeks out the immobile QB. Pocket QB just don't offer as much. But Brady won the SB. Nobody is or will be Brady, never gonna happen. Sorry. Brady also had Evans, Brown, Godwin, Gronk, Fournette, and R. Jones. Really? 5 pro bowlers. Wouldn't you want to get as much out of a play as possible. All 5 top guys have the arm, four of the five have the arm and the ability to create and the ability to run for 20yds when a play breaks down. Don't care how fast you process, plays break down. Gimme the guy who the defense have to worry about when he has to start moving not sloth boy with the great process skills.

Ah. I feel better now.

Something about this "second read passer rating" I keep seeing here.

In 2019, this same state had Aaron Rodgers going from 96.5 on his first read to 74.9 on his second read.

It had Patrick Mahomes going from 105 on his first read to 89.

What is this stat and why is it the end all be all when it says that Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes are s**t tier at their second read?

This is all dumb. The only thing that matters is the tape. Period.

I'm worried if we draft Jones he'll eat our second round pick.

.... fatty.

Originally posted by 1251alex:

Originally posted by NCommand:
This is, BY FAR, the most I've ever seen Maiocco lock in on one player. He's been relentless on this from day 1.

.@AdamSchefter says an NFC general manager told him, "The media does not have as high of grades on Mac Jones as teams do."

Only four more weeks until the NFL Draft begins. https://t.co/wtQS0vxqrc

— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) April 2, 2021

But why? That's the question.

probably because its his job? idk. or maybe the niners are "leaking" stuff to get the Jags or Jets to pick someone other than their perceived guys?

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Something about this "second read passer rating" I keep seeing here.

In 2019, this same state had Aaron Rodgers going from 96.5 on his first read to 74.9 on his second read.

It had Patrick Mahomes going from 105 on his first read to 89.

What is this stat and why is it the end all be all when it says that Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes are s**t tier at their second read?

This is all dumb. The only thing that matters is the tape. Period.

I do agree it is normally a bad, that is almost entirely dependent on play calls and of course you want passer rating to be better on the first read than otherwise.

But in this case after weeks of seeing, "Justin Fields is terrible once you shut down his first read while Mac Jones can spread out to everyone" it is kind of funny.

Latest B/R Top 150: (Jones is there, have to scroll a bit)

1. Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson (9.5)
2. Justin Fields, QB, Ohio State (9.2)
3. Kyle Pitts, TE, Florida (9.1)
4. Penei Sewell, OT, Oregon (9.0)
5. DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama (8.9)
6. Trey Lance, QB, North Dakota State (8.75)
7. Zach Wilson, QB, BYU (8.7)
8. Landon Dickerson, IOL, Alabama (8.7)
9. Rashod Bateman, WR, Minnesota (8.65)
10. Ja'Marr Chase, WR, LSU (8.6)
11. Alijah Vera-Tucker, IOL, USC (8.6)
12. Daviyon Nixon, DL, Iowa (8.51)
13. Teven Jenkins, OT, Oklahoma St. (8.5)
14. Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, LB, Notre Dame (8.5)
15. Rashawn Slater, OT, Northwestern (8.4)
16. Patrick Surtain II, CB, Alabama (8.4)
17. Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama (8.4)
18. Christian Darrisaw, OT, Virginia Tech (8.3)
19. Trevon Moehrig, S, TCU (8.3)
20. Micah Parsons, LB, Penn State (8.3)
21. Kwity Paye, Edge, Michigan (8.2)
22. Greg Newsome II, CB, Northwestern (8.2)
23. Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina (8.2)
24. Zaven Collins, LB, Tulsa (8.11)
25. Creed Humphrey, IOL, Oklahoma (8.1)
26. Caleb Farley, CB, Virginia Tech (8.1)
27. Liam Eichenberg, OT, Notre Dame (8.0)
28. Najee Harris, RB, Alabama (8.0)
29. Elijah Moore, WR, Mississippi (7.92)
30. Christian Barmore, DL, Alabama (7.91)
31. Dyami Brown, WR, North Carolina (7.91)
32. Alex Leatherwood, OT, Alabama (7.9)
33. Rondale Moore, WR, Purdue (7.9)
34. Terrace Marshall Jr., WR, LSU (7.9)
35. Rashad Weaver, Edge, Pittsburgh (7.9)
36. Wyatt Davis, IOL, Ohio State (7.9)
37. Javonte Williams, RB, North Carolina (7.9)
38. Jay Tufele, DL, USC (7.83)
39. Azeez Ojulari, Edge, Georgia (7.82)
40. Joseph Ossai, Edge, Texas (7.81)

41. Mac Jones, QB, Alabama (7.8)

Man. We b effed.

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Nope. 272, 218, 308 yds rushing. 200-300 yds is hardly an immobile pocket guy.Think Brady-esque, less than 120 ydsseason. 8yds per game roughly.

LOL. That's nothing.

Zactly, Brady is the definitive pocket passer. Mahomes 300% more rushing yards

Too funny.

Pocket passers = < 150 (Brady, Brees, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Ryan, Brady, Goff, Mayfield, Herbert, etc.)
Pocket passers with mobility = < 300 (Mahomes, Tannehill)
Athletic QB's = > 300 (Wilson, Allen, Jackson, Watson)

Still a massive minority for playoff teams.

Do you have a preference?

Originally posted by Jcool:

Overall, Jones deals with pressure well, but he's not going to create plays when the protection breaks down. I don't believe all quarterbacks have to be out-of-structure maestros, even in today's NFL, but if you're exclusively a pocket passer, you should have amazing arm talent to make up for it. Jones is a below-average athlete with a below-average arm and very good accuracy. If you draft him in the first round, you're betting that his mind can develop into Brady or Drew Brees-like mastery, because his intelligence will ultimately be what can separate him. His physical ability gives him little room for error.

https://theathletic.com/2448030/2021/04/02/mac-jones-film-analysis-not-overly-athletic-his-arms-not-elite-but-hes-an-excellent-pocket-passer/

Oh wow Derek Carr's a good pocket passer too and doesn't move the needle. Eureka I just got it! Jones is another Derek Carr. Welp no thanks.