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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Jcool:
But Fields putting up good numbers at say Penn State still gets him drafted in round 1 because he has speed and arm strength.
Penn State isn't exactly considered a small school.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by Jcool:
But Fields putting up good numbers at say Penn State still gets him drafted in round 1 because he has speed and arm strength.
Exactly and that's why alot of QBs bust in the NFL
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Jcool:
But Fields putting up good numbers at say Penn State still gets him drafted in round 1 because he has speed and arm strength.
Penn State isn't exactly considered a small school.
Neither is Kentucky.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Oh thats why? First i am hearing of this.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Jcool:
But Fields putting up good numbers at say Penn State still gets him drafted in round 1 because he has speed and arm strength.
Penn State isn't exactly considered a small school.
Neither is Kentucky.
I know where you were going with it. Just thought it was odd you didn't apply it to QB's with a different skill set.
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by krizay:
Because people keep bringing up his mobility issues despite showing he is athletic enough and has pocket mobility
His 3 cone is worse than trubisky/baker, more on par with Goff. I don't think he's a complete marino-esque statue but no he's not going to do s**t with his legs in the nfl
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Oh thats why? First i am hearing of this.
You just said he would get drafted in the 1st at another school because he has arm strength and speed.
People getting drafted because of arm strength and/or speed has busted since the dawn of time.
Originally posted by jcs:
M.Jones 3 cone 7.04
Trubisky 3 cone 6.87
Baker 3 cone 7.00
Goff 3 cone 7.17
M.Stafford 7.06
M.Ryan 7.40
J.Cutler 7.10
K.Cousins 7.05
Jimmy G. 7.04
J.Winston 7.14
D.Prescot 7.11
J.Herbert 7.06
J.Love 7.21
Originally posted by Jcool:
I said if he put up good numbers. Not just getting drafted because of speed and arm.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by jcs:
M.Jones 3 cone 7.04
Trubisky 3 cone 6.87
Baker 3 cone 7.00
Goff 3 cone 7.17
M.Stafford 7.06
M.Ryan 7.40
J.Cutler 7.10
K.Cousins 7.05
Jimmy G. 7.04
J.Winston 7.14
D.Prescot 7.11
J.Herbert 7.06
J.Love 7.21
Also keep in mind most of these are at the NFL combine, not a pro day.
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by krizay:
Because people keep bringing up his mobility issues despite showing he is athletic enough and has pocket mobility
His 3 cone is worse than trubisky/baker, more on par with Goff. I don't think he's a complete marino-esque statue but no he's not going to do s**t with his legs in the nfl
M.Jones 3 cone 7.04
Trubisky 3 cone 6.87
Baker 3 cone 7.00
Goff 3 cone 7.17
M.Stafford 7.06
M.Ryan 7.40
J.Cutler 7.10
K.Cousins 7.05
Jimmy G. 7.04
J.Winston 7.14
D.Prescot 7.11
J.Herbert 7.06
J.Love 7.21
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, you fellas need to watch Max Browne's breakdown of Fields on the whiteboard to truly understand the bold. He illustrates it perfectly and that's just not something PFF is going to capture. Mac Jones might be the best in the class by a wide margin in this aspect and should probably be weighted far heavier than 40 time and the ability to make off schedule throws.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, you fellas need to watch Max Browne's breakdown of Fields on the whiteboard to truly understand the bold. He illustrates it perfectly and that's just not something PFF is going to capture. Mac Jones might be the best in the class by a wide margin in this aspect and should probably be weighted far heavier than 40 time and the ability to make off schedule throws.
Just watched it. Very good video and I learned a ton about Fields. Very good player and I still value him higher than Mac, but he's by no means head and shouters above Mac. Mac has different strengths and weaknesses and they offset Fields strengths and weaknesses in such a way as to really make it difficult for me to say Kyle would prefer Fields *for sure* over Mac. But if I'm convinced Kyle's moving on to a mobile QB, and leaving the Kirk Cousins model (and I think he has) he will take Fields. If not, then Mac.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by krizay:
Because people keep bringing up his mobility issues despite showing he is athletic enough and has pocket mobility
His 3 cone is worse than trubisky/baker, more on par with Goff. I don't think he's a complete marino-esque statue but no he's not going to do s**t with his legs in the nfl
M.Jones 3 cone 7.04
Trubisky 3 cone 6.87
Baker 3 cone 7.00
Goff 3 cone 7.17
M.Stafford 7.06
M.Ryan 7.40
J.Cutler 7.10
K.Cousins 7.05
Jimmy G. 7.04
J.Winston 7.14
D.Prescot 7.11
J.Herbert 7.06
J.Love 7.21
Why don't you bring up how much they weigh? ALSO you're comparing pro day #s to combine #s since when is that apples to apples? We say fields actually ran a 4.5 (4.4 pro day) you better at the .1 to Jones' numbers all the same.
