Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Matt Ryan had ridiculous amounts of talent on offense with him for pretty much the entire time he has the QB for the Falcons.

Ridiculous amounts of talent.

I wouldn't call him an elite QB by any stretch of imagination. That is with all-pro caliber talent at WR almost every year of his career.

And Ryan is the absolute highest Jones is as a prospect...and that's stretching it. Spending 3 1sts on a system QB LOL.

Out great offensive innovator can't work with elite talent. What a joke.

Mac Jones has attempted 556 passes in his college career.
Matt Ryan completed 807 passes in his college career.

Matt Ryan was an exponentially better prospect.

We can talk about stats that favor Mac Jones over Matt Ryan as well.

Both of their stats for final and best college seasons.

Matt Ryan 6.9 yards per pass attempt.
Mac Jones 11.2 yards per attempt.

Matt Ryan 59.3 completion percentage.
Mac Jones 77.4 completion percentage

Matt Ryan 31/9 TD to INT ratio
Mac Jones 41/4 TD to INT ratio

They both threw for 4500 yards. But Mac did it in one less game played. Also way more amazing in 250 less passes thrown.
Yes, you just read that right in 250 less passes and same amount of yards.

If you were comparing their best seasons in college. Mac Jones best had a way better season then Matt Ryan. It is really not even close based on the stats. That is coming from someone who sees them as potentially very similar QBs.

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Matt Ryan had ridiculous amounts of talent on offense with him for pretty much the entire time he has the QB for the Falcons.

Ridiculous amounts of talent.

I wouldn't call him an elite QB by any stretch of imagination. That is with all-pro caliber talent at WR almost every year of his career.

And Ryan is the absolute highest Jones is as a prospect...and that's stretching it. Spending 3 1sts on a system QB LOL.

Out great offensive innovator can't work with elite talent. What a joke.

Mac Jones has attempted 556 passes in his college career.
Matt Ryan completed 807 passes in his college career.

Matt Ryan was an exponentially better prospect.

We can talk about stats that favor Mac Jones over Matt Ryan as well.

Both of their stats for final and best college seasons.

Matt Ryan 6.9 yards per pass attempt.
Mac Jones 11.2 yards per attempt.

Matt Ryan 59.3 completion percentage.
Mac Jones 77.4 completion percentage

Matt Ryan 31/9 TD to INT ratio
Mac Jones 41/4 TD to INT ratio

They both threw for 4500 yards. But Mac did it in one less game played. Also way more amazing in 250 less passes thrown.
Yes, you just read that right in 250 less passes and same amount of yards.

If you were comparing their best seasons in college. Mac Jones best had a way better season then Matt Ryan. It is really not even close based on the stats. That is coming from someone who sees them as potentially very similar QBs.

Something tells me Jones was surrounded by more talent.

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Matt Ryan had ridiculous amounts of talent on offense with him for pretty much the entire time he has the QB for the Falcons.

Ridiculous amounts of talent.

I wouldn't call him an elite QB by any stretch of imagination. That is with all-pro caliber talent at WR almost every year of his career.

And Ryan is the absolute highest Jones is as a prospect...and that's stretching it. Spending 3 1sts on a system QB LOL.

Out great offensive innovator can't work with elite talent. What a joke.

Mac Jones has attempted 556 passes in his college career.
Matt Ryan completed 807 passes in his college career.

Matt Ryan was an exponentially better prospect.

We can talk about stats that favor Mac Jones over Matt Ryan as well.

Both of their stats for final and best college seasons.

Matt Ryan 6.9 yards per pass attempt.
Mac Jones 11.2 yards per attempt.

Matt Ryan 59.3 completion percentage.
Mac Jones 77.4 completion percentage

Matt Ryan 31/9 TD to INT ratio
Mac Jones 41/4 TD to INT ratio

They both threw for 4500 yards. But Mac did it in one less game played. Also way more amazing in 250 less passes thrown.
Yes, you just read that right in 250 less passes and same amount of yards.

If you were comparing their best seasons in college. Mac Jones best had a way better season then Matt Ryan. It is really not even close based on the stats. That is coming from someone who sees them as potentially very similar QBs.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by roasthawg:

Originally posted by KID9R:

Originally posted by roasthawg:

Originally posted by bigdawg49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by FL9er:
500 pages for Mac "f'n" Jones. Mac Jones.

49ers fans are shook, although I'm pretty sure it's just Command and NY going back and forth. I checked out 170 pages ago.

lol it's me vs everyone

I'm not buying it until I hear the name being called....if so it's less interest in the team for me, which like I said is probably a good thing

If we indeed pick Mac Jones which is 50/50 like fields and lance then how would that necessarily be a bad thing? We improved our o line, have one of the best offensive minds in the game, good receivers, one of the best right ends in football, a very good running game. Any quarterback can flourish in this system. So I'm just curious why you would be "less interested" in the team if we pick Mac Jones

Because he's so anti Mac that he's dug himself a hole and won't be able to root for the guy. I know from experience, I did it myself with Alex Smith back in the day. Hated him and then couldn't root for him when he was in there. Just wanted anyone else in. That's the danger of these chat forums. You get so pigeon holed in a take on a player you would rather root for him to fail at the team's expense so that you're not wrong... when literally no one cares what your uneducated, monday morning qb opinion is lol. Learn from my mistakes people. It's ok to have favorites but don't hate on a guy too much before he ever plays a game. Shanahan is a pretty bright dude that makes millions of dollars to run a team. So far so good I think most of us would agree. Let's see who he picks and what he can do with him. Can you imagine if he had Matt Ryan for like the first ten years of his career? That could very well be the situation we're building up to here in this draft.

I don't think it's the fact of getting pigeonholed into your opinion. I think some more to the fact that it's absolutely insane to give up three first round picks for Mac freaking Jones. When before this trade was made, most saw him as the fifth quarterback and picked anywhere between 10 or not even a first round pick. It seems to be the only reason the pundits give when explaining why they have Jones going at three. It's not because of his talent, it's because he fits what Kyle has coached before.

You don't know that though. Like I said if he's a young Matt Ryan it's an amazing move. It's fine to have an opinion but all I'm saying is the danger is in having too strong an opinion to where you actually root against the guy because you wanna be right so bad. Mac can come in and throw 35tds in 2022 and lead us to a super bowl. It's really not that far out of the realm. Carson Wentz was having a mvp year in year 2 and the Eagles won it all. Same with Mahomes. And no one was predicting that from either of those guys. The league will always surprise you. Keep an open mind is my word of advice to young niners fans. Shanahan is a pretty exciting young coach and this is his all in move. Gonna be fun to watch for me whether it's Mac Jones or Trey Lance or Justin Fields. I'll be equally excited for any of the above.

The got damn voice of reason!

Originally posted by gold49digger:
I wonder what number jones is gonna pick? Jimmy already has 10

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Matt Ryan had ridiculous amounts of talent on offense with him for pretty much the entire time he has the QB for the Falcons.

Ridiculous amounts of talent.

I wouldn't call him an elite QB by any stretch of imagination. That is with all-pro caliber talent at WR almost every year of his career.

And Ryan is the absolute highest Jones is as a prospect...and that's stretching it. Spending 3 1sts on a system QB LOL.

Out great offensive innovator can't work with elite talent. What a joke.

Mac Jones has attempted 556 passes in his college career.
Matt Ryan completed 807 passes in his college career.

Matt Ryan was an exponentially better prospect.

We can talk about stats that favor Mac Jones over Matt Ryan as well.

Both of their stats for final and best college seasons.

Matt Ryan 6.9 yards per pass attempt.
Mac Jones 11.2 yards per attempt.

Matt Ryan 59.3 completion percentage.
Mac Jones 77.4 completion percentage

Matt Ryan 31/9 TD to INT ratio
Mac Jones 41/4 TD to INT ratio

They both threw for 4500 yards. But Mac did it in one less game played. Also way more amazing in 250 less passes thrown.
Yes, you just read that right in 250 less passes and same amount of yards.

If you were comparing their best seasons in college. Mac Jones best had a way better season then Matt Ryan. It is really not even close based on the stats. That is coming from someone who sees them as potentially very similar QBs.

One played at Boston college - with 0 receivers drafted in the NFL.

One played at Alabama - with 2 receivers likely to be drafted in top 10 in the NFL.

Originally posted by roasthawg:
I posted this video in the pick #3 thread. I'll post it here too. I'm no Mac Jones hater, I'll be excited if he's the pick. Is he gonna be the pick though is what I'm entertaining myself with leading up to the draft? A pretty ugly redzone pic call back here. Some good quick reads too. A mixed bag. JTO is awesome with his breakdowns though. https://youtu.be/miLOBJmT0zQ

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Matt Ryan had ridiculous amounts of talent on offense with him for pretty much the entire time he has the QB for the Falcons.

Ridiculous amounts of talent.

I wouldn't call him an elite QB by any stretch of imagination. That is with all-pro caliber talent at WR almost every year of his career.

And Ryan is the absolute highest Jones is as a prospect...and that's stretching it. Spending 3 1sts on a system QB LOL.

Out great offensive innovator can't work with elite talent. What a joke.

Mac Jones has attempted 556 passes in his college career.
Matt Ryan completed 807 passes in his college career.

Matt Ryan was an exponentially better prospect.

We can talk about stats that favor Mac Jones over Matt Ryan as well.

Both of their stats for final and best college seasons.

Matt Ryan 6.9 yards per pass attempt.
Mac Jones 11.2 yards per attempt.

Matt Ryan 59.3 completion percentage.
Mac Jones 77.4 completion percentage

Matt Ryan 31/9 TD to INT ratio
Mac Jones 41/4 TD to INT ratio

They both threw for 4500 yards. But Mac did it in one less game played. Also way more amazing in 250 less passes thrown.
Yes, you just read that right in 250 less passes and same amount of yards.

If you were comparing their best seasons in college. Mac Jones best had a way better season then Matt Ryan. It is really not even close based on the stats. That is coming from someone who sees them as potentially very similar QBs.

One played at Boston college - with 0 receivers drafted in the NFL.

One played at Alabama - with 2 receivers likely to be drafted in top 10 in the NFL.

Originally posted by Niners418:
Of course I'll root for Mac to succeed. Anger about the pick will quickly shift to supporting him once it's over-with.
I just can't fathom moving all this draft capital for another QB with limitations.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Yes. File those receipts away!

I mean I don't care about receipts ....nothing anyone says in here changes anything. If it's Mccorkle is what it is. Biggest reach in NFL history and I'm not kidding.

I will be very disappointed in this team if Jones is the pick. My interest will be about as low as it's been since they got here and I will not be spending money on them.

There isn't a chance in hell we will be beating the likes of Mahomes/Allen/Wilson/Rogers etc with him.

What a f**king joke.

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Matt Ryan had ridiculous amounts of talent on offense with him for pretty much the entire time he has the QB for the Falcons.

Ridiculous amounts of talent.

I wouldn't call him an elite QB by any stretch of imagination. That is with all-pro caliber talent at WR almost every year of his career.

And Ryan is the absolute highest Jones is as a prospect...and that's stretching it. Spending 3 1sts on a system QB LOL.

Out great offensive innovator can't work with elite talent. What a joke.

Mac Jones has attempted 556 passes in his college career.
Matt Ryan completed 807 passes in his college career.

Matt Ryan was an exponentially better prospect.

We can talk about stats that favor Mac Jones over Matt Ryan as well.

Both of their stats for final and best college seasons.

Matt Ryan 6.9 yards per pass attempt.
Mac Jones 11.2 yards per attempt.

Matt Ryan 59.3 completion percentage.
Mac Jones 77.4 completion percentage

Matt Ryan 31/9 TD to INT ratio
Mac Jones 41/4 TD to INT ratio

They both threw for 4500 yards. But Mac did it in one less game played. Also way more amazing in 250 less passes thrown.
Yes, you just read that right in 250 less passes and same amount of yards.

If you were comparing their best seasons in college. Mac Jones best had a way better season then Matt Ryan. It is really not even close based on the stats. That is coming from someone who sees them as potentially very similar QBs.

One played at Boston college - with 0 receivers drafted in the NFL.

One played at Alabama - with 2 receivers likely to be drafted in top 10 in the NFL.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by 4ML:

One played at Boston college - with 0 receivers drafted in the NFL.

One played at Alabama - with 2 receivers likely to be drafted in top 10 in the NFL.

To be Fair Waddle only played in 6 games last year.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Matt Ryan had ridiculous amounts of talent on offense with him for pretty much the entire time he has the QB for the Falcons.

Ridiculous amounts of talent.

I wouldn't call him an elite QB by any stretch of imagination. That is with all-pro caliber talent at WR almost every year of his career.

And Ryan is the absolute highest Jones is as a prospect...and that's stretching it. Spending 3 1sts on a system QB LOL.

Out great offensive innovator can't work with elite talent. What a joke.

Mac Jones has attempted 556 passes in his college career.
Matt Ryan completed 807 passes in his college career.

Matt Ryan was an exponentially better prospect.

We can talk about stats that favor Mac Jones over Matt Ryan as well.

Both of their stats for final and best college seasons.

Matt Ryan 6.9 yards per pass attempt.
Mac Jones 11.2 yards per attempt.

Matt Ryan 59.3 completion percentage.
Mac Jones 77.4 completion percentage

Matt Ryan 31/9 TD to INT ratio
Mac Jones 41/4 TD to INT ratio

They both threw for 4500 yards. But Mac did it in one less game played. Also way more amazing in 250 less passes thrown.
Yes, you just read that right in 250 less passes and same amount of yards.

If you were comparing their best seasons in college. Mac Jones best had a way better season then Matt Ryan. It is really not even close based on the stats. That is coming from someone who sees them as potentially very similar QBs.

One played at Boston college - with 0 receivers drafted in the NFL.

One played at Alabama - with 2 receivers likely to be drafted in top 10 in the NFL.

Too bad they didn't have a QB capable of getting them the ball on time and in the right place.

Oh, wait...