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Originally posted by BOI49er:
I just don't get all the angst.

Kyle has always said the problem with athletic quarterbacks is that all their life, they've been the best athlete on the field. He just thinks it's very hard to get a guy like that to consistently stay in the pocket and find the solution there.

Do we know Kyle loves Cousins? He ran a 4.84, to Jones' 4.79. (Oh, and Garoppolo's 4.97).

Kyle believes he provides solutions for almost all situations. Of course defenses will win some plays, no matter what your style of play, but he values toughness by a quarterback standing in and getting rid of the ball in the best way possible, either down field, or to an outlet, or just throwing it away. Sometimes just taking a sack is the best solution, no matter how athletic you are (or if you're trying to run).

Mac Jones is acknowledged by all to be very smart, who can read defenses very well both pre and post snap, who is superlative at recognizing a progression at lightning speed, is very accurate with the ball on deep, intermediate, and short passes, who consistently places the ball to throw his guy open and maximize RAC, and can understand and apply a complex offensive scheme and can quickly make the appropriate decisions depending on the defenses reaction, and who really Never makes WTF plays, allowing him to trust his quarterback and play aggressively. (That will be different). He's the Only guy Kyle Knows can keep up with him mentally and stay true to his offensive plan. This guy was tailor made for Kyle.

Way too much is made of his supposed lack of athleticism. I previously showed line by line his 40 time is faster than 76 percent of all Super Bowl winners this century.

IMO, it's going to be Jones, and for the first time, Kyle will be comfortable using his whole offense. Kyle is our ticket to winning Super Bowls, not Super Man. And we will.

Kyle has also lost two SBs because either his QB wasn't athletic enough or the other QB he played was athletic enough to extend plays when the offense couldn't execute. That s**t matters.

He watch Allen piss pound him and said himself it didn't matter what they did as far as scheme went, they simply couldn't defend him...He's has issues vs QBs that can move and actually help the HC. We've had no problem beating in the pocket QBs for the most part.

if anything he's sounds like an arrogant HC who thinks his scheme will beat everyone...even Andy Reid changed his tune on that. He doesn't see who's actually been beating him and applying that to his offense.

A 40 time at a pro day doesn't mean s**t....we all watch the games, he's not laterally quick and can not make plays off script, even Cosell said this much.

his arm talent is subpar and the offensive scheme isn't gonna change at all from Jimmy. We will literally be worse as a team because gave up yrs of talent for him.

disgusting
System QB for 3 1sts would be the biggest reach in NFL history. f**king gross
Originally posted by NYniner85:
System QB for 3 1sts would be the biggest reach in NFL history. f**king gross

Preach!
Originally posted by Bloodless:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by Bloodless:
All I am hearing is excuses as to why Mac Jones put up way better stats then Matt Ryan. Not just slightly better stats but significantly better stats. You were the one who tried bringing some crap stat as to why Matt Ryan was a better prospect than Mac Jones. I am fully aware of the teams differences and even the difference in college football at that time. But to say that Matt Ryan was on another level as a prospect from Mac Jones, Is just false.

lol do you bc it doesn't seem like it.

I posted pass attempt stats to show - he doesn't have enough experience to be called NFL-ready.

Hey, since you love the passes attempted stat so much. You must really loathe Trey Lance Huh? He must be going undrafted after those God-awful passes attempted stats he put up?

No. But, I definitely don't want him starting in 2021. I'd like him to sit and if Jimmy G plays really well this season - I wouldn't mind if he sits 2 years. No one is saying he is NFL ready right now. Ppl are saying Mac Jones is ready to play in the NFL right now. No one is saying that about Lance.

I love Lance bc of his raw potential. If Shanahan says - they'd prefer a QB who can win now - I'd understand passing on Lance. My question to Shahahan would then be - why not just trade for Stafford in that case?!? He is a win now QB - and you could have had him for less. Why draft a QB who has played 17 games if you want to win right now and you mortgage the future for him - makes no sense?!?
[ Edited by 4ML on Apr 6, 2021 at 3:16 PM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Kyle has also lost two SBs because either his QB wasn't athletic enough or the other QB he played was athletic enough to extend plays when the offense couldn't execute. That s**t matters.

He watch Allen piss pound him and said himself it didn't matter what they did as far as scheme went, they simply couldn't defend him...He's has issues vs QBs that can move and actually help the HC. We've had no problem beating in the pocket QBs for the most part.

if anything he's sounds like an arrogant HC who thinks his scheme will beat everyone...even Andy Reid changed his tune on that. He doesn't see who's actually been beating him and applying that to his offense.

A 40 time at a pro day doesn't mean s**t....we all watch the games, he's not laterally quick and can not make plays off script, even Cosell said this much.

his arm talent is subpar and the offensive scheme isn't gonna change at all from Jimmy. We will literally be worse as a team because gave up yrs of talent for him.

disgusting

I am not even sure until I see it at this level IF a Mac Jones can beat out a Jimmy G. I am not just talking about this year either. I am talking in the next couple of years. When you give up this type of haul you better be getting a superstar!
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
System QB for 3 1sts would be the biggest reach in NFL history. f**king gross

Preach!

Can this guy run the system better than Jimmy in 2 years? Well we better damn well be guaranteed he can for all we gave up
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Kyle has also lost two SBs because either his QB wasn't athletic enough or the other QB he played was athletic enough to extend plays when the offense couldn't execute. That s**t matters.

He watch Allen piss pound him and said himself it didn't matter what they did as far as scheme went, they simply couldn't defend him...He's has issues vs QBs that can move and actually help the HC. We've had no problem beating in the pocket QBs for the most part.

if anything he's sounds like an arrogant HC who thinks his scheme will beat everyone...even Andy Reid changed his tune on that. He doesn't see who's actually been beating him and applying that to his offense.

A 40 time at a pro day doesn't mean s**t....we all watch the games, he's not laterally quick and can not make plays off script, even Cosell said this much.

his arm talent is subpar and the offensive scheme isn't gonna change at all from Jimmy. We will literally be worse as a team because gave up yrs of talent for him.

disgusting

I am not even sure until I see it at this level IF a Mac Jones can beat out a Jimmy G. I am not just talking about this year either. I am talking in the next couple of years. When you give up this type of haul you better be getting a superstar!

Imo Based on tape - Garappolo has a better arm than Jones. More zip out of his hand.
When was the last time the lest talented QB went before the more talented QB?? I mean we aren't even talking about Mac Jones having a cannon for an arm and just happens to be not that mobile. This is a team that could take an average QB #3 based solely on him playing for the best team in the country. And you have to hope he becomes Tom Brady and Lance /Fields don't become anything or Shanahan's becomes Norv Turner 2.0.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Imo Based on tape - Garappolo has a better arm than Jones. More zip out of his hand.

They have different types of arms. Jimmy doesn't have a cannon, but he has a VERY twitchy arm--a lot twitchier than Mac(or Fields/Lance/Lawrence). Mac is a full-body thrower that needs a clean platform to uncork one, but he can get it to anywhere on the field if he has a clean platform to throw from.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Imo Based on tape - Garappolo has a better arm than Jones. More zip out of his hand.

Garropolo I was perfectly fine with going into this season with if he is healthy. We win games with Jimmy and we got to the Super Bowl with Jimmy. We won a shootout vs Brees in NOLA with Jimmy. I am good with him but I know we need more to win the big one. I don't see after THREE 1sts and change were Mac Jones is the answer over what we already have and with keeping our draft picks

I would have rather gotten another talent at 12 and kept our picks if all we are doing is going after Mac Jones
Worst pick in 49ers history. At least all the busts we took only cost one 1st

We still hear crap about picking Smith instead of Rodgers. We're going to be hearing about this garbage pick until the end of time
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Imo Based on tape - Garappolo has a better arm than Jones. More zip out of his hand.

They have different types of arms. Jimmy doesn't have a cannon, but he has a VERY twitchy arm--a lot twitchier than Mac(or Fields/Lance/Lawrence). Mac is a full-body thrower that needs a clean platform to uncork one, but he can get it to anywhere on the field if he has a clean platform to throw from.

With our O line he will have a clean platform all the time
Originally posted by Heroism:
They have different types of arms. Jimmy doesn't have a cannon, but he has a VERY twitchy arm--a lot twitchier than Mac(or Fields/Lance/Lawrence). Mac is a full-body thrower that needs a clean platform to uncork one, but he can get it to anywhere on the field if he has a clean platform to throw from.

We gotta see Aaron Donald twice a year, Pockets are gonna be full of lint and bubblegum outside of the wrapper!
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Imo Based on tape - Garappolo has a better arm than Jones. More zip out of his hand.

They have different types of arms. Jimmy doesn't have a cannon, but he has a VERY twitchy arm--a lot twitchier than Mac(or Fields/Lance/Lawrence). Mac is a full-body thrower that needs a clean platform to uncork one, but he can get it to anywhere on the field if he has a clean platform to throw from.

With our O line he will have a clean platform all the time

Originally posted by Jcool:
When was the last time the lest talented QB went before the more talented QB?? I mean we aren't even talking about Mac Jones having a cannon for an arm and just happens to be not that mobile. This is a team that could take an average QB #3 based solely on him playing for the best team in the country. And you have to hope he becomes Tom Brady and Lance /Fields don't become anything or Shanahan's becomes Norv Turner 2.0.

In an honest and fair camp competition and preseason are we really assured this guy can beat Jimmy out not this year but next year and would we be willing to wager on it?
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