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Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Imo Based on tape - Garappolo has a better arm than Jones. More zip out of his hand.

They have different types of arms. Jimmy doesn't have a cannon, but he has a VERY twitchy arm--a lot twitchier than Mac(or Fields/Lance/Lawrence). Mac is a full-body thrower that needs a clean platform to uncork one, but he can get it to anywhere on the field if he has a clean platform to throw from.

Mac Jones doesn't need a full platform to throw from. His throwing ability is underrated.
Literally all you hear is that mac is some genius. He played in the most stacked team with the best coaches (Sark is very good) and had 1st round talent every where. Why aren't Lance/fields just as smart? Mac had a DUI and has an obvious beer belly. Mac had most of his passes at the line of scrimmage, i just don't get it.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
System QB for 3 1sts would be the biggest reach in NFL history. f**king gross

That's my issue with it.
Originally posted by crusher49er:
Literally all you hear is that mac is some genius. He played in the most stacked team with the best coaches (Sark is very good) and had 1st round talent every where. Why aren't Lance/fields just as smart? Mac had a DUI and has an obvious beer belly. Mac had most of his passes at the line of scrimmage, i just don't get it.

Watch this, and you'll get it.

Originally posted by crusher49er:
Literally all you hear is that mac is some genius. He played in the most stacked team with the best coaches (Sark is very good) and had 1st round talent every where. Why aren't Lance/fields just as smart? Mac had a DUI and has an obvious beer belly. Mac had most of his passes at the line of scrimmage, i just don't get it.

Have you watched the game film? He scans the field 100x better than Lance or Fields. In this 2020-2021 season, Justin Fields threw to a receiver that was not his first read only 7 times. THE ENTIRE SEASON. If that's not a red flag, I don't know what is. Mac's eyes are always down the field and looking for the open receiver. He is exactly what we need in our offense. Also, everyone needs to quit with this beer belly and DUI bs. Not everyone's bodies are built to be ripped and have a six pack. If he wasn't a pocket passer, I would agree, but in his case who cares if he has some fat.
[ Edited by Jr16702 on Apr 6, 2021 at 3:38 PM ]
Originally posted by Heroism:
Watch this, and you'll get it.


Lol so many passes with impeccable protection. "Look at this genius!!!"
If jones is the pick, then the o line must be updated, especially the right side of it.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
With our O line he will have a clean platform all the time
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
We gotta see Aaron Donald twice a year, Pockets are gonna be full of lint and bubblegum outside of the wrapper!

He does a good job of mitigating this physical limitation by consistently throwing on time, decisively, and with anticipation, which is where he has a big advantage over Jimmy. That's an often-overlooked factor in his ability to get the ball out before the rush can get home. It wasn't exclusively his OL dominating on every snap. Mac gets the ball out very quickly.
[ Edited by Heroism on Apr 6, 2021 at 3:39 PM ]
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Imo Based on tape - Garappolo has a better arm than Jones. More zip out of his hand.

They have different types of arms. Jimmy doesn't have a cannon, but he has a VERY twitchy arm--a lot twitchier than Mac(or Fields/Lance/Lawrence). Mac is a full-body thrower that needs a clean platform to uncork one, but he can get it to anywhere on the field if he has a clean platform to throw from.

With our O line he will have a clean platform all the time



my first thought as well. Yes, Jimmy Has a faster release which masks the line issues, but in general the ball has better velocity to me.

Maybe that's why Jones anticipates well. He knows he can't muscle the ball in there and it's made him more cerebral. That's a good thing, but I want the arm talent and the brains. We didn't make this move to be meek.
Mac Jones soared up draft boards in recent weeks and now looks like a prime candidate to go No. 3 overall to the San Francisco 49ers. With Trevor Lawrence and Zach Wilson expected to go No. 1 and 2, Jones might lead the pack after that, and for good reason according to his former offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian, now the Texas Longhorns head coach.

Sarkisian sat down with Todd McShay on ESPN's CFB Podcast and broke down everything he threw at Jones last season. While Alabama had projected first round receivers DeVonta Smith and Jaylen Waddle, Sarkisian threw everything but the kitchen sink at Jones in the Crimson Tide offense.

McShay discussed this and more with Sarkisian, who revealed the amount of freedom he gave Jones in the offense.

"He said, 'We just need him to stay in his lane,'" McShay said Sarkisian told him. "'We have two receivers in DeVonta Smith and Jaylen Waddle who are going to be first-round picks. We got three offensive linemen that are going to be early draft picks. We've got Najee Harris at running back who's going to be a first-round pick. (Mac) just needs to stay in his lane.' Then we had a game of three or four weeks later, with Alabama, and Steve was saying, 'He's really starting to come along. He's progressing. We're giving him more and more.'

"And then late in the season, Steve said to me, 'I've never given a college quarterback, in all my years of coaching college quarterbacks, I've never given more to a college quarterback than I've given to Mac Jones.' In terms of the installs, and the offense and the freedom that he has at the offensive line. And that's what teams are intrigued by. This guy he can't beat you with his feet, but he's really good in the pocket, he's got great accuracy, and he's probably the most, I don't want say intelligent, but probably the fastest processor in terms of going from first-read to second-read to third-read of any of the quarterbacks in this draft class."

Pro Football Focus also broke down the fit in San Francisco for Jones.

"Jones also utilized play action a ton in Alabama's offense — even more than Shanahan has ever deployed," PFF's Mike Renner wrote, via the 49ers. "About 47% of Jones' dropbacks last season came with a play-action fake, and 52.9% of his passing yards were gained off play action. Put it all together and it's very easy to see how what he did at Alabama would be a very seamless transition to what he'd be asked to do in San Francisco."
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
I just don't get all the angst.

Kyle has always said the problem with athletic quarterbacks is that all their life, they've been the best athlete on the field. He just thinks it's very hard to get a guy like that to consistently stay in the pocket and find the solution there.

Do we know Kyle loves Cousins? He ran a 4.84, to Jones' 4.79. (Oh, and Garoppolo's 4.97).

Kyle believes he provides solutions for almost all situations. Of course defenses will win some plays, no matter what your style of play, but he values toughness by a quarterback standing in and getting rid of the ball in the best way possible, either down field, or to an outlet, or just throwing it away. Sometimes just taking a sack is the best solution, no matter how athletic you are (or if you're trying to run).

Mac Jones is acknowledged by all to be very smart, who can read defenses very well both pre and post snap, who is superlative at recognizing a progression at lightning speed, is very accurate with the ball on deep, intermediate, and short passes, who consistently places the ball to throw his guy open and maximize RAC, and can understand and apply a complex offensive scheme and can quickly make the appropriate decisions depending on the defenses reaction, and who really Never makes WTF plays, allowing him to trust his quarterback and play aggressively. (That will be different). He's the Only guy Kyle Knows can keep up with him mentally and stay true to his offensive plan. This guy was tailor made for Kyle.

Way too much is made of his supposed lack of athleticism. I previously showed line by line his 40 time is faster than 76 percent of all Super Bowl winners this century.

IMO, it's going to be Jones, and for the first time, Kyle will be comfortable using his whole offense. Kyle is our ticket to winning Super Bowls, not Super Man. And we will.

Kyle has also lost two SBs because either his QB wasn't athletic enough or the other QB he played was athletic enough to extend plays when the offense couldn't execute. That s**t matters.

He watch Allen piss pound him and said himself it didn't matter what they did as far as scheme went, they simply couldn't defend him...He's has issues vs QBs that can move and actually help the HC. We've had no problem beating in the pocket QBs for the most part.

if anything he's sounds like an arrogant HC who thinks his scheme will beat everyone...even Andy Reid changed his tune on that. He doesn't see who's actually been beating him and applying that to his offense.

A 40 time at a pro day doesn't mean s**t....we all watch the games, he's not laterally quick and can not make plays off script, even Cosell said this much.

his arm talent is subpar and the offensive scheme isn't gonna change at all from Jimmy. We will literally be worse as a team because gave up yrs of talent for him.

disgusting

If Garoppolo could have hit Sanders, we'd have won that SB. If Garoppolo could hit Any deep pass, we'd have succeeded in Kyle's philosophy of making the defense defend "every blade of grass", they'd of deepened their coverage, and the score would already have been out of reach. If Kyle could have trusted his quarterback to not make WTF plays, he's have played more aggressively, and the score likewise would have been out of reach. Mac's arm "talent" is Anything but sub par, if accuracy has anything to do with talent.

Teams lose Super Bowls because they play cautiously, while the other team gambles, and gambles again, until it works. Kyle won't do that with a quarterback he trusts to only throw eight times in a playoff game. Points come out of the passing game, and you must be willing to take your chances on offense when it's one and done. We are not.

We'll start with Garoppolo while Jones gets comfortable with the offense, but I'll bet a lot Jones will have taken over before the playoffs. "We've looked at the last four years, and took a look at what we want the next four years look like". You want the best defense you can get, but the bottom line is you have to be able to outscore the other guy, because yes, there are aggressive coaches and quarterbacks out there, and we're not matching them, and we won't without the proven "trait" of a quick minded quarterback Kyle can trust.
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Watch this, and you'll get it.


Lol so many passes with impeccable protection. "Look at this genius!!!"

Haha this...wow just amazing. He got 3 yrs to sit and learn a offense. His ceiling is all but maxed out.

dude is gonna get booed out of Levi. The fans are gonna riot.
Originally posted by Jr16702:
Have you watched the game film? He scans the field 100x better than Lance or Fields. In this 2020-2021 season, Justin Fields threw to a receiver that was not his first read only 7 times. THE ENTIRE SEASON. If that's not a red flag, I don't know what is. Mac's eyes are always down the field and looking for the open receiver. He is exactly what we need in our offense. Also, everyone needs to quit with this beer belly and DUI bs. Not everyone's bodies are built to be ripped and have a six pack.

Lol you eat up a bunch of nonsense and don't question it

https://youtu.be/FEiCfSGmsrc

There are literally more than 7 of those passes in this game alone but because you read some junk stat from a YouTube personality you bought it hook, line and sinker. Niners trying to get the fanbase to be ok with "settling" for Mac. Will be a sad day if it happens

Ps

Also the "dui thing" lol that's a giant red flag. Guy is irresponsible. I wouldn't make excuses for him, I don't care how old he was. He could have killed someone or permanently injured them, like Britt Reid did. Piece of garbage
[ Edited by frenchmov on Apr 6, 2021 at 3:47 PM ]
Originally posted by crusher49er:
Literally all you hear is that mac is some genius. He played in the most stacked team with the best coaches (Sark is very good) and had 1st round talent every where. Why aren't Lance/fields just as smart? Mac had a DUI and has an obvious beer belly. Mac had most of his passes at the line of scrimmage, i just don't get it.

yup. I'm with you. 3 firsts for a Jimmy clone. Where do I sign up? lol
Originally posted by BOI49er:
If Garoppolo could have hit Sanders, we'd have won that SB. If Garoppolo could hit Any deep pass, we'd have succeeded in Kyle's philosophy of making the defense defend "every blade of grass", they'd of deepened their coverage, and the score would already have been out of reach. If Kyle could have trusted his quarterback to not make WTF plays, he's have played more aggressively, and the score likewise would have been out of reach. Mac's arm "talent" is Anything but sub par, if accuracy has anything to do with talent.

Teams lose Super Bowls because they play cautiously, while the other team gambles, and gambles again, until it works. Kyle won't do that with a quarterback he trusts to only throw eight times in a playoff game. Points come out of the passing game, and you must be willing to take your chances on offense when it's one and done. We are not.

We'll start with Garoppolo while Jones gets comfortable with the offense, but I'll bet a lot Jones will have taken over before the playoffs. "We've looked at the last four years, and took a look at what we want the next four years look like". You want the best defense you can get, but the bottom line is you have to be able to outscore the other guy, because yes, there are aggressive coaches and quarterbacks out there, and we're not matching them, and we won't without the proven "trait" of a quick minded quarterback Kyle can trust.

And all Jimmy did was hit deep passes in college...kyle loses SBs because he can't depend on his players to make a play, meanwhile the other team does.

Mac Jones will never beat Rogers/Wilson/mahomes/Allen etc this team is no better and actually worse
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