Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jackburton1:
The thing that I don't like with Jones' play style that I haven't seen brought up much is how cautious he is. JTO touches on it here a little bit https://youtu.be/miLOBJmT0zQ?t=204. What I see from Jones is a guy who is very risk averse, and his high IQ is frequently just him quickly turning down his first read to find the easy underneath option. Tight-window throws are VERY few and far between with him. The riskiest passes he makes are when he has Smith one on one and he just throws whether the CB has leverage or not. He has five-man protections most of the time, so he always has a checkdown option, which is not the case in our offense. Most great college qb's have the confidence to try to make plays and throw to covered guys. They're usually a bit reckless and you have to dial that down in the NFL. You shouldn't have to dial a qb's aggressiveness up.

It's not that he's cautious, it's that JT O'Sullivan was the most aggressive passer in NFL history under Mike Martz, so he sees everything from that angle. That doesn't mean he's not wrong either, on some of those. But taking care of the football was pretty much his least priority. LOL. Just adding context.

No, it's that Mac Jones thinks a window needs to be the size of a garage door to make the throw.

Originally posted by mitpdub:
All the analysts love this guy and his ball placement is on the dime, it just doesn't have the effortless zip that the other top QBs have. In the pros accuracy and timing is everything. Kap had plenty of juice on his throws but could only see half the field, and couldn't hit a throw to his RBs to save his life.

For Mac though everyone says how great his supporting cast was. But I keep hearing he had the toughest schedule ever in college football and won the championship.

So could it be instead of the WRs, RB, and OL making Mac look good, maybe it was Mac that made them look good ? Kyle should be able to evaluate that.

No one loves Mac Jones. There is a reason most have him QB 5.

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jackburton1:
The thing that I don't like with Jones' play style that I haven't seen brought up much is how cautious he is. JTO touches on it here a little bit https://youtu.be/miLOBJmT0zQ?t=204. What I see from Jones is a guy who is very risk averse, and his high IQ is frequently just him quickly turning down his first read to find the easy underneath option. Tight-window throws are VERY few and far between with him. The riskiest passes he makes are when he has Smith one on one and he just throws whether the CB has leverage or not. He has five-man protections most of the time, so he always has a checkdown option, which is not the case in our offense. Most great college qb's have the confidence to try to make plays and throw to covered guys. They're usually a bit reckless and you have to dial that down in the NFL. You shouldn't have to dial a qb's aggressiveness up.

It's not that he's cautious, it's that JT O'Sullivan was the most aggressive passer in NFL history under Mike Martz, so he sees everything from that angle. That doesn't mean he's not wrong either, on some of those. But taking care of the football was pretty much his least priority. LOL. Just adding context.

No, it's that Mac Jones thinks a window needs to be the size of a garage door to make the throw.

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Originally posted by jcs:
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Weak ass arm

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by jcs:
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Weak ass arm

Originally posted by jcs:
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I see a qb with a clean pocket throwing to a wide open WR. Why this guy is freaking out over a basic play i have no idea.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by jcs:
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I see a qb with a clean pocket throwing to a wide open WR. Why this guy is freaking out over a basic play i have no idea.

When Justin Fields does this. "He won't have this kinda time in the NFL".

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by jcs:
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Weak ass arm

Why aren't more people talking about this dime 🎯 #NFLDraft pic.twitter.com/PW2itTUQ4B

— Mac Hereford (@Mac_Hereford) March 31, 2021

Lol. It should be a dime, shorts, no pads, no defense. I can throw a dime Saturday afternoon at the park.

Originally posted by Jcool:
I see a qb with a clean pocket throwing to a wide open WR. Why this guy is freaking out over a basic play i have no idea.

Dude literally hits his back foot at the top of his drop and lets it rip. That's going to beat the rush every time.

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jackburton1:
The thing that I don't like with Jones' play style that I haven't seen brought up much is how cautious he is. JTO touches on it here a little bit https://youtu.be/miLOBJmT0zQ?t=204. What I see from Jones is a guy who is very risk averse, and his high IQ is frequently just him quickly turning down his first read to find the easy underneath option. Tight-window throws are VERY few and far between with him. The riskiest passes he makes are when he has Smith one on one and he just throws whether the CB has leverage or not. He has five-man protections most of the time, so he always has a checkdown option, which is not the case in our offense. Most great college qb's have the confidence to try to make plays and throw to covered guys. They're usually a bit reckless and you have to dial that down in the NFL. You shouldn't have to dial a qb's aggressiveness up.

It's not that he's cautious, it's that JT O'Sullivan was the most aggressive passer in NFL history under Mike Martz, so he sees everything from that angle. That doesn't mean he's not wrong either, on some of those. But taking care of the football was pretty much his least priority. LOL. Just adding context.

No, it's that Mac Jones thinks a window needs to be the size of a garage door to make the throw.

LOL. OK. Good thing he's coming to Kyle's system.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Jcool:
I see a qb with a clean pocket throwing to a wide open WR. Why this guy is freaking out over a basic play i have no idea.

Dude literally hits his back foot at the top of his drop and lets it rip. That's going to beat the rush every time.

There is no rush on that play. Alabama OL is stonewalling the DL.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
It's funny how we can't call out kyle either...fun fact, kyle is the only 49er HC with 3 10 losing seasons. In part because he's f**ked up at QB.

not many teams continue to win when their starting qb is injured and the first one is when he took over the roster and did a complete overhaul. The only full season where his chosen qb did not get injured we went to the SB

This. Jimmy wasn't a "bad" choice. Obviously he's a winner. Just can't stay healthy.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Getting the Todd Blackledge of the 1983 draft. Stoked.

Except nobody thought it was a bad pick at the time. It was the Marino pick that Miami was slammed for.

I remember the pick knocked because of the BS rumors and Dr. Z thinking Shula couldn't develop a QB, even though he had Morally, Grieve, even Strock had a solid career as a backup.

Originally posted by zero:

Originally posted by Joecool:
It's amazing that he is getting so much buzz that nobody cares about QBs 1 and 2. Players with this much buzz always end up disappointing.

It feels like drafting Jim Druckenmiller, but at 3 overall versus 26th overall

Jim was taken by a Super Bowl competing team, that was getting the QB blasted. So obviously instead of shoring up the line, they found a QB who could tow a truck around by his teeth. That never made sense to anyone, Druckenmillers PR team put out a tape showing how manly and strong he is, almost kind of super poor mans Tim Tebow viral marketing campaign( obviously years before we knew what a tim tebow was). He was literally drafted because he was towing a truck or car around strapped to his back. The thinking being...nah you cant sack this guy...this guy will have the DL falling off him. Keep in mind that was ABSOLUTLY a poor mans Tim Tebow...you got strong with out any of the other athleticism. He was not a guy that could play TE or FB in the NFL like Tebow probably could have.

It was the dumbest pick in my 40+ years as a 49er fan.

This is absolutely nothing like that.

You hope Jones is like taking Montana top 3 even tho the rest of the NFL thinks your reaching, albeit that seems to be changing rapidly with Jones stock on the rise. You fear taking Jones in the top 3 is like Taking Tim Rattay in the top 3, as in....did we just draft a career backup...you are completely banking on the hope his brain is amazing.

Hardest thing in the world to evaluate has got to be football instincts. 1/20th of a second can be everything. Considering how hard it is for the NFL to get "football instincts" right, imagine how hard it must be to drop that same prospect onto a historically great team like Alabama, a team with the coach and talent to make most college QBs well above functional. Its an impossible thing to quantify. I would think evaluating Mac Jones would have been a 100 times easier on a mediocre team. At least you can say hey the average QB can do this with the Average talent around him...what can Jones do. No one will know that until he gets onto an NFL team.

I like Jones, but man do i get everyones fear with this pick.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jackburton1:
The thing that I don't like with Jones' play style that I haven't seen brought up much is how cautious he is. JTO touches on it here a little bit https://youtu.be/miLOBJmT0zQ?t=204. What I see from Jones is a guy who is very risk averse, and his high IQ is frequently just him quickly turning down his first read to find the easy underneath option. Tight-window throws are VERY few and far between with him. The riskiest passes he makes are when he has Smith one on one and he just throws whether the CB has leverage or not. He has five-man protections most of the time, so he always has a checkdown option, which is not the case in our offense. Most great college qb's have the confidence to try to make plays and throw to covered guys. They're usually a bit reckless and you have to dial that down in the NFL. You shouldn't have to dial a qb's aggressiveness up.

It's not that he's cautious, it's that JT O'Sullivan was the most aggressive passer in NFL history under Mike Martz, so he sees everything from that angle. That doesn't mean he's not wrong either, on some of those. But taking care of the football was pretty much his least priority. LOL. Just adding context.

No, it's that Mac Jones thinks a window needs to be the size of a garage door to make the throw.

LOL. OK. Good thing he's coming to Kyle's system.

So stoked we finally get our Kirk Cousins, middle-of-the- pack quarterbacking here we come. Amped

Originally posted by boomer49er:
No, it's that Mac Jones thinks a window needs to be the size of a garage door to make the throw.

Clearly any amount of rudimentary youtube surfing last year watching Judey or Ruggs, let alone watching any of Jones' tape would have told you that he throws into tight coverage regularly let alone passing windows.

Why even repeat something you absolutely know is not true?