Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Anyone that reminds him of the dream guy he and father drafted together, Kirk Cousins, is a Shanny guy. 100% Kyle and Mike made this decision together.
And if we got Mac in the 4th round, you wouldn't hear a complaint. But you don't take a 1 year starter with zero special athletic skills on a stacked team #3 overall. Should we compare him to other 1 year college starters that were drafted recently?
Kyler Murray - special athletic skills perfectly fitting the offense he was drafted to play, so far he has looked the part
Dwayne Haskins - marginal athletic skills, current starter but probably an eventual backup
Mark Sanchez - a few good years then development seemed to stop. became a backup
Cam Newton - special athletic skills, best years were wasted on bad teams, but still a special talent
Mitchell Trubisky - marginal athletic skills, a high level backup
Are we to believe that Mac Jones is even as athletic as Mark Sanchez or Dwaine Haskins? He definitely isn't in the Murray, or Newton mold. Then are we to believe that he is like a Manning football savant? Watch an interview with him, he doesn't come off to me as extremely smart. Just a normal level intelligence football player more in line with Sanchez or Trubisky.
Let's look at who I think we SHOULD compare him to. Matt Leinart and Ken Dorsey. This was part of a writeup on the insidetheU website about Ken Dorsey.
"Dorsey threw for a school-record 9,565 yards and 86 touchdowns in his career (1999-2002) and is the winningest quarterback in UM history going 38-2 as a starter, which included guiding the Hurricanes to their fifth national title in 2001—arguably the greatest college football team of all time.
Dorsey was a two-time Heisman Trophy finalist, a Maxwell Award Winner, and two-time Big East Offensive Player of the Year. "
Sounds very familiar, but that really isn't the full comparison obviously. Continuing from the article.
"So where does Dorsey rank amongst all the modern day quarterbacks (post 2000)? ESPN college football expert Bill Connelly attempted to rank the best college quarterbacks of the 2000s and Dorsey made the cut at No. 34.
Here is what Connelly wrote about Dorsey:
"An early-2000s Mac Jones: He inherited an all-time great supporting cast and piloted it beautifully enough to earn a pair of top-5 Heisman finishes. The U went 35-2 in his three seasons as a starter and has won double-digit games only twice since his departure.""
The tell for me is that in looking at mock drafts prior to the 49ers trade to 3rd, Mac Jones was on average going between 12th pick overall to 55th pick overall. Now, after the 49ers trade, suddenly he is a 3rd overall to 20th overall. That kind of jump doesn't make any sense. You don't take a QB top 5 overall unless they have something about them that makes them special. Before you say "He has a photographic memory", let's remember where that information came from. Mac Jones in an interview said, "I'll remember every detail that all 22 people are doing," said Jones. "I don't know what it is, maybe I have a little bit of a photographic memory, I just remember … if it's a good play, or a bad play, I'll remember what it was. You don't even have to roll the tape, and I'll remember. I take a lot of pride in recall, and stuff like that." So according to the source, he maybe has a little bit of a photographic memory. So, can I just say as a person who knows people with actual photographic memory....he doesn't have a photographic memory.
It is just my 2 cents. When we were at 12 I was hoping that Lance would fall to us or we could take Mac Jones. Once we went to 3 I never thought for a second that Mac was worth that much.
Fields is a multi year starter, with special athletic attributes and a proven track record against good competition. Kyle's offense has worked OK with just a good arm. I can't imagine what he could do with an athletic arm. Fields needs to be the pick.
