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Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by thl408:
I'd say the chances that all 5 become legit NFLers is zero. Which means some team(s) are going to be drafting a straight up bust. Please not the 49ers. Although whichever QB gets drafted by SF has by far the best environment to succeed in. If I was Lawrence I would consider making a video of myself in a bong mask hoping I drop to #3 .

Historically speaking the odds are that at least 2 of the Top 5 will be major disappointments/busts and one is likely to be average to below average.


This is exactly what I said my concern was after they jumped to #3, as you mentioned the team environment has a lot to do with it and we have the best of the top 5. When it comes to this I always think of Alex Smith and Rodgers. I think if we had gotten Rodgers and Alex ended up in GB, the narrative would be reversed because our environment sucked while GB was good. Rodgers got to sit and learn while Alex was set up for failure. In this case, as good as Lawrence is projected to be, he might be the bust. Who are the Jags surrounding him with to help him out?, and as good as Meyer was in college we all know the NFL is different. How is he going to react when failure hits him in the face, this is something he never experienced in his college coaching career.

Yeah but how often is a top 3 QB selected by a team that has SB caliber talent surrounding that QB AND in an established system?

The odds are high a QB drafted by a SB caliber team succeeds.
[ Edited by Joecool on Apr 9, 2021 at 10:33 AM ]
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Not my quarterback!!! 😤

Why? He doesn't have the speed or cannon arm but has just about everything else which is a lot more important. Idk if he is worth what all we traded but he's my choice if Wilson is gone
Originally posted by BMoore56:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Not my quarterback!!! 😤

The pick is going to be Fields. The 49ers haven't leaked anything to nobody. I think all these analysts are reaching.

Mac -305 odds on Draft Kings. Fields +225
Hello darkness, my old friend.
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Mac -305 odds on Draft Kings. Fields +225

Ridiculous
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Betting odds are not forecasts.

Betting odds are created to maximize betting on each side so the house can maximize their win. If Vegas thought they could maximize their take by favoriting Mond as the #1 overall pick that's exactly what they'd do.

Don't conflate the two.
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Mac -305 odds on Draft Kings. Fields +225

Ridiculous

Vegas doesn't care about being right, they care about taking your money.

Tweet is from January 27. Rams acquired Stafford on January 30.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I think coach will go with the QB who's a better pocket passer, better taking snaps under center, a great leader and is football all day every day.

Lance then?
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Bwahahaha.

Literally, the same issue for Garoppolo. Pass protection.

The is real!

Ahh no it wasn't SF was missing one starter in the SB. They had 3 1st rd talents one that line. It's wasn't a one week thrown together OL of guys playing different position across the line

In short, he needed everything to be perfect.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Mac -305 odds on Draft Kings. Fields +225

Ridiculous

Vegas doesn't care about being right, they care about taking your money.

Tweet is from January 27. Rams acquired Stafford on January 30.

Someone being +325 odds and -305 odds on favorite are vastly different.
Rapoport says Shanahan's love for Mac Jones is legit. The question is it deep enough that he'll draft him at 3. I wonder if we could see the 49ers trying to move down a spot or two on draft day.

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Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Someone being +325 odds and -305 odds on favorite are vastly different.

Point is the best Vegas odds don't mean anything when it comes to what actually happens.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Someone being +325 odds and -305 odds on favorite are vastly different.

Point is the best Vegas odds don't mean anything when it comes to what actually happens.

Comparing apples and oranges
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Someone being +325 odds and -305 odds on favorite are vastly different.

Point is the best Vegas odds don't mean anything when it comes to what actually happens.

Comparing apples and oranges

Weird hill to die on.
Originally posted by NCommand:
In short, he needed everything to be perfect.

In short he needed offensive lineman that aren't UDFAs that had been cut and moved around in the same year, getting one week to play a position they've never played.

What you think he had this amazing OL vs SF in the Super Bowl? lol
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 9, 2021 at 11:30 AM ]
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