Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by NCommand:
Agree all around. I have my concerns on Mac and Lance too but it's these I'm concerned about with Fields and I think he'll end up with a lot of stripped fumbles and his 3.11 and 3.18 TTT when blitzed scares the hell out of me. That 3.11 matches the longest in the NFL currently in Jalen Hurts. I see him in that Russell Wilson territory of 2.97 where there's a lot of busts and some boom too. Lots of negative yards on sacks and 3 and outs but some special runs and off schedule throws. But a clunky offense overall.

Kyle wants all his guys under 2.55 (top 5) every year. That's where KYLE has the control. After that, it's off schedule and out of his hands.

Originally posted by Rissei:
Per ESPN's next-gen stats, Ryan's 2016 TTT was 2.64, which was slightly longer-than-average.

The 49ers wanted Deshaun Watson, whose 2020 TTT was 2.85.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jcool:
Yeah and no one wants a Russell Wilson type in the NFL. No one.

Nobody wants the negative parts I was referencing. You know, the ones that only take him so far annually.

33-15 record the last 3 seasons with Wilson averaging 35 TDs and 8 INTs.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Nobody wants the negative parts I was referencing. You know, the ones that only take him so far annually.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jcool:
Yeah and no one wants a Russell Wilson type in the NFL. No one.

Nobody wants the negative parts I was referencing. You know, the ones that only take him so far annually.

33-15 record the last 3 seasons with Wilson averaging 35 TDs and 8 INTs.

K.

30 of this 33 wins are a clunky offense for 58 minutes with 2 minute heroics.

But I'm more interested in QB's who can win Championships, not regular seasons.

Also, I wasn't comparing the two directly...just the negative parts of Russell's game and style.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Nobody wants the negative parts I was referencing. You know, the ones that only take him so far annually.

Russell has had a defense that couldn't stop a nose bleed. Dude has been Iin MVP consideration all season

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jcool:
Yeah and no one wants a Russell Wilson type in the NFL. No one.

Nobody wants the negative parts I was referencing. You know, the ones that only take him so far annually.

33-15 record the last 3 seasons with Wilson averaging 35 TDs and 8 INTs.

K.

30 of this 33 wins are a clunky offense for 58 minutes with 2 minute heroics.

But I'm more interested in QB's who can win Championships, not regular seasons.

Also, I wasn't comparing the two directly...just the negative parts of Russell's game and style.

K.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jcool:
Yeah and no one wants a Russell Wilson type in the NFL. No one.

Nobody wants the negative parts I was referencing. You know, the ones that only take him so far annually.

33-15 record the last 3 seasons with Wilson averaging 35 TDs and 8 INTs.

K.

30 of this 33 wins are a clunky offense for 58 minutes with 2 minute heroics.

But I'm more interested in QB's who can win Championships, not regular seasons.

Also, I wasn't comparing the two directly...just the negative parts of Russell's game and style.

K.

One in a row.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jcool:
Yeah and no one wants a Russell Wilson type in the NFL. No one.

Nobody wants the negative parts I was referencing. You know, the ones that only take him so far annually.

33-15 record the last 3 seasons with Wilson averaging 35 TDs and 8 INTs.

K.

30 of this 33 wins are a clunky offense for 58 minutes with 2 minute heroics.

But I'm more interested in QB's who can win Championships, not regular seasons.

Also, I wasn't comparing the two directly...just the negative parts of Russell's game and style.

K.

One in a row.

Only current QBs with Multiple Super Bowls wins are Ben Roethlisberger who last won in 2008 and Tom Brady.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jcool:
Yeah and no one wants a Russell Wilson type in the NFL. No one.

Nobody wants the negative parts I was referencing. You know, the ones that only take him so far annually.

33-15 record the last 3 seasons with Wilson averaging 35 TDs and 8 INTs.

K.

30 of this 33 wins are a clunky offense for 58 minutes with 2 minute heroics.

But I'm more interested in QB's who can win Championships, not regular seasons.

Also, I wasn't comparing the two directly...just the negative parts of Russell's game and style.

K.

One in a row.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Rissei:
Per ESPN's next-gen stats, Ryan's 2016 TTT was 2.64, which was slightly longer-than-average.

The 49ers wanted Deshaun Watson, whose 2020 TTT was 2.85.

There's a massive difference in style of play when you start getting above the 2.7's.

Allegedly.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
OMG people are still talking about TTT like it means anything

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Rissei:
Per ESPN's next-gen stats, Ryan's 2016 TTT was 2.64, which was slightly longer-than-average.

The 49ers wanted Deshaun Watson, whose 2020 TTT was 2.85.

There's a massive difference in style of play when you start getting above the 2.7's.

Allegedly.

OMG people are still talking about TTT like it means anything

Originally posted by NCommand:
There's a massive difference in style of play when you start getting above the 2.7's.

Allegedly.