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Originally posted by leonbanton:
Joe Burrows was worth it. If this were about him, yes I'd be pumped. Scrambling, off script throws, laser arm yes. Macorkel Jones is not Joe Burrow, and he ain't Joe Montana.
PS Hurst and Tua were both better.
Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Originally posted by roasthawg:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by leonbanton:
None of these people were the number 3 pick in the NFL draft. Which another team traded 2 first round picks for. The kid plated in a system and learned it pretty good.
I hope he gets in a good situation in the nfl. My point is, we've got folks defended the position of moving up to get him. We get too hyped up! I watch college football a little. I realize sometimes a little more goes into it than just who can play. But my point was I'm tired of this processing crap as an excuse. Even when I see film of how good he is, I'll see him throw to the best man, not the open man. Throwing into double coverage! And it just so happens his man out jumps and out runs the opponent every time.
Calling it what it is, he a late first rounder, early second!
if he has time to learn on a decent team, he'll be a good backup.
Do you want me to go to top picks because I can. Last year's #1 QB had to transfer to LSU because he wasn't good enough to start at OSU. Thurman Thomas started over Barry Sanders. Kelley Winslow started over Jeremy Shockey. As already been pointed out a hundred times Justin Fields himself had to transfer because Fromm was going to be the starter.
Not too mention Jones himself kept a five star recruit on the bench all season this year. It goes both ways
The #1 overall recruit in the nation. I wanted Bryce Young to start and was waiting for Jones to relinquish it....but he never did. He was as close to perfect as a qb could be in cfb. He and the offense was so good there was not one point in the season where it felt like we would lose a game.
Originally posted by Ripamaru:
PFF
"What will that look like without first reads running wide open, though? There are a couple of ways to judge that. The first is with PFF's decision charting that gave him a 73.8 passing grade when forced to go beyond his first read the past two seasons — the lowest of any quarterback in the top five here."
I could swear someone said this part of his game wasn't bad according to Simms.
The tape backs it up. He is not good unless his first read is open.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Matt Maiocco just said on a podcast that all his insider tea leaves are "HEAVILY" pointing towards Mac Jones.
He's got Adam Schefter (ironic?) on his current pod and AS once again confirmed he feels it's Mac. This time he said they are still "open" to everything doing their due diligence and really like Lance and Mac but if you asked him today, it's Mac.
He said the smokescreen idea is off...no need for it.
They owe it to the "process" to gather as much info as possible until the pick is made.
John and Kyle were totally on the same page on their guy to move up to 3.
Originally posted by mitpdub:
I'm not going to get too heavily invested in the QB debate again. If Shanny picks Mac/Fields/Lance or Wilson drops, I'll support the choice and not be angry if we overpaid.
Back in 2005 when we had the top pick no one would trade us for it,and it was Smith vs Rodgers. I think most on this board like Smith more because he was smart and athletic. A bunch of zoners hated Rodgers for how he held the ball in college (2 hands) and how that wouldn't work in the pros. The visual is what people couldn't get over. Rodgers unlearned it, and he turned out alright. One became a good starter and the other a future HoFer.
Originally posted by highway49:
More suppositions....
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/five_nfl_prospects_who_could_experience_draft_day_slides/s1_12680_34603133
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Was Hurts really better? Because I think you're going to have a hard time arguing that a benched QB because he was too much of a runner did better than a nation title winner with a 198 rating.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Matt Maiocco just said on a podcast that all his insider tea leaves are "HEAVILY" pointing towards Mac Jones.
He's got Adam Schefter (ironic?) on his current pod and AS once again confirmed he feels it's Mac. This time he said they are still "open" to everything doing their due diligence and really like Lance and Mac but if you asked him today, it's Mac.
He said the smokescreen idea is off...no need for it.
They owe it to the "process" to gather as much info as possible until the pick is made.
John and Kyle were totally on the same page on their guy to move up to 3.
So is fields a distant third?
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Originally posted by highway49:
More suppositions....
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/five_nfl_prospects_who_could_experience_draft_day_slides/s1_12680_34603133
"This all comes down to Kyle Shanahan. If he goes against the advice of scouts and doesn't break from his old habits, Mac Jones will be the No. 3 overall pick. He offers the upside to become an advanced version of Kirk Cousins, a quarterback who executes the offense his coach calls and consistently helps keep his team in a position to win. In ideal circumstances, Jones can be a good NFL quarterback"
Is Kyle gonna Kyle? Or get someone to open up this offense for real? I still think he's not stupid enough to pick Jones.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Matt Maiocco just said on a podcast that all his insider tea leaves are "HEAVILY" pointing towards Mac Jones.
He's got Adam Schefter (ironic?) on his current pod and AS once again confirmed he feels it's Mac. This time he said they are still "open" to everything doing their due diligence and really like Lance and Mac but if you asked him today, it's Mac.
He said the smokescreen idea is off...no need for it.
They owe it to the "process" to gather as much info as possible until the pick is made.
John and Kyle were totally on the same page on their guy to move up to 3.
So is fields a distant third?
I'm just writing his own words. I don't know what that implies. He did reference all three though too. But when asked who SF liked, he noted those two.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Originally posted by highway49:
More suppositions....
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/five_nfl_prospects_who_could_experience_draft_day_slides/s1_12680_34603133
"This all comes down to Kyle Shanahan. If he goes against the advice of scouts and doesn't break from his old habits, Mac Jones will be the No. 3 overall pick. He offers the upside to become an advanced version of Kirk Cousins, a quarterback who executes the offense his coach calls and consistently helps keep his team in a position to win. In ideal circumstances, Jones can be a good NFL quarterback"
Is Kyle gonna Kyle? Or get someone to open up this offense for real? I still think he's not stupid enough to pick Jones.
LOL. I wouldn't call him stupid for taking a QB he believes is optimal and ideal for his offense but if he does and it fails, and Fields & Lance take off, he's definitely going to feel stupid.
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Ok. Stubborn and arrogant then. If JG isn't traded by draft day, they're picking Fields. If 'Nickel Slots' Jones is so ready for the NFL, they should be chomping at the bit to get some of that draft capital back.
Originally posted by English:
If Garoppolo isn't traded it could also mean Lance. And here is a thing. Whichever quarterback Shanahan wants for his O, he brings a whole lot more to the decision than the the average webzoner. So whichever one he goes for, disagreeing with you and a number of other football fans doesn't make him stubborn and arrogant.
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Originally posted by highway49:
More suppositions....
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/five_nfl_prospects_who_could_experience_draft_day_slides/s1_12680_34603133
"This all comes down to Kyle Shanahan. If he goes against the advice of scouts and doesn't break from his old habits, Mac Jones will be the No. 3 overall pick. He offers the upside to become an advanced version of Kirk Cousins, a quarterback who executes the offense his coach calls and consistently helps keep his team in a position to win. In ideal circumstances, Jones can be a good NFL quarterback"
Is Kyle gonna Kyle? Or get someone to open up this offense for real? I still think he's not stupid enough to pick Jones.
LOL. I wouldn't call him stupid for taking a QB he believes is optimal and ideal for his offense but if he does and it fails, and Fields & Lance take off, he's definitely going to feel stupid.
Ok. Stubborn and arrogant then. If JG isn't traded by draft day, they're picking Fields. If 'Nickel Slots' Jones is so ready for the NFL, they should be chomping at the bit to get some of that draft capital back.