Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by NCommand:
IMHO, all 3 should sit for a year like Mac did in college.

Mac can run the scout team his rookie year and make Meco big mad.

Unlike on Alabama, the 49ers scout team won't have 6 first rounders on it.

Don't you talk about Jeff Wilson and Raheem Mostert like that!

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by highway49:
More suppositions....
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/five_nfl_prospects_who_could_experience_draft_day_slides/s1_12680_34603133

"This all comes down to Kyle Shanahan. If he goes against the advice of scouts and doesn't break from his old habits, Mac Jones will be the No. 3 overall pick. He offers the upside to become an advanced version of Kirk Cousins, a quarterback who executes the offense his coach calls and consistently helps keep his team in a position to win. In ideal circumstances, Jones can be a good NFL quarterback"

Is Kyle gonna Kyle? Or get someone to open up this offense for real? I still think he's not stupid enough to pick Jones.

LOL. I wouldn't call him stupid for taking a QB he believes is optimal and ideal for his offense but if he does and it fails, and Fields & Lance take off, he's definitely going to feel stupid.

Ok. Stubborn and arrogant then. If JG isn't traded by draft day, they're picking Fields. If 'Nickel Slots' Jones is so ready for the NFL, they should be chomping at the bit to get some of that draft capital back.

Or they would prefer to give Mac time to acclimate to the NFL game and not rush things. No matter what QB is taken at 3, he won't be better than JG on day one.

Agree, but in Mac's case he'll eventually be only as good as JG. All the talking points rave about he's the most NFL ready (he's not BTW, Lawrence is.)

Matt Ryan said he didn't have a strong grasp on Kyle's offense until year 2. If Mac was the pick, best case scenario if for JG to stay healthy all year allowing Mac to soak it all up and be given a boat load of time to digest the offense.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by evil:
Or they would prefer to give Mac time to acclimate to the NFL game and not rush things. No matter what QB is taken at 3, he won't be better than JG on day one.

Isn't the whole point in taking Jones because he's some QB savant that's ready day 1?

If the plan is to sit whomever for a yr, why in the world would you not go for elite traits and upside? Makes absolutely no sense

Because what you think are elite are not what Kyle sees as elite for his system. Perception.

And I'm not saying I don't understand your take either. Believe me, I get it!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by bigdawg49:
Dude it's clear they don't know who the niners are taking. Funny how the media is all of a sudden backpedaling. Nobody knows what happens in 49er headquarters but the niners period

That's how you took that? Interesting. OK.

Nothing you posted says otherwise. No one but Lynch and Shanahan knows who the 49ers are taking.

Reading comprehension isn't your bag, baby but the topic was about Maiocco and Schefter and both have said they believe it's Mac and haven't relented on that since day one based on who they talk inside NFL circles.

That's the opposite of "packpeddling."

Now, if you want fan pods that are all in on Fields, go listen to Javier Vega, Brian Peacock and Oscar. They are big on physical traits too and PFF.

Don't be that guy. No one likes that guy.

Maiocco is great but is usually the last to hear about things. Schefter is hearing from around the league not from the 49ers or else he would announce on sports center the 49ers have locked in on Mac Jones. Not go on podcast and say he would be surprised if the pick isn't Jones.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by evil:
Or they would prefer to give Mac time to acclimate to the NFL game and not rush things. No matter what QB is taken at 3, he won't be better than JG on day one.

Isn't the whole point in taking Jones because he's some QB savant that's ready day 1?

If the plan is to sit whomever for a yr, why in the world would you not go for elite traits and upside? Makes absolutely no sense

Not necessarily. The pro ready stuff really helps with upping the competition for the backup spot this year given JG's injury history.

What if they are drafting elite cerebral traits with Mac?

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by highway49:
More suppositions....
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/five_nfl_prospects_who_could_experience_draft_day_slides/s1_12680_34603133

"This all comes down to Kyle Shanahan. If he goes against the advice of scouts and doesn't break from his old habits, Mac Jones will be the No. 3 overall pick. He offers the upside to become an advanced version of Kirk Cousins, a quarterback who executes the offense his coach calls and consistently helps keep his team in a position to win. In ideal circumstances, Jones can be a good NFL quarterback"

Is Kyle gonna Kyle? Or get someone to open up this offense for real? I still think he's not stupid enough to pick Jones.

LOL. I wouldn't call him stupid for taking a QB he believes is optimal and ideal for his offense but if he does and it fails, and Fields & Lance take off, he's definitely going to feel stupid.

Ok. Stubborn and arrogant then. If JG isn't traded by draft day, they're picking Fields. If 'Nickel Slots' Jones is so ready for the NFL, they should be chomping at the bit to get some of that draft capital back.

Or they would prefer to give Mac time to acclimate to the NFL game and not rush things. No matter what QB is taken at 3, he won't be better than JG on day one.

Agree, but in Mac's case he'll eventually be only as good as JG. All the talking points rave about he's the most NFL ready (he's not BTW, Lawrence is.)

Matt Ryan said he didn't have a strong grasp on Kyle's offense until year 2. If Mac was the pick, best case scenario if for JG to stay healthy all year allowing Mac to soak it all up and be given a boat load of time to digest the offense.

Call me crazy but I think ShanaLynch brought everyone back and talked to Silverback and the crew and told them, they're running it back this year (again) while also preparing for the future.

Do all these guys come back on one year deals if Kyle is going to throw in a rookie and risk their own financial future?

The better the team is this year, the better it is for everyone. They all believe they can compete for a Championship this year. ShanaLynch said that in their media interview too IIRC.

Jimmy Garoppolo gives them the best shot at that. Period.

Originally posted by Jcool:
Don't be that guy. No one likes that guy.

Maiocco is great but is usually the last to hear about things. Schefter is hearing from around the league not from the 49ers or else he would announce on sports center the 49ers have locked in on Mac Jones. Not go on podcast and say he would be surprised if the pick isn't Jones.

I just bring you the information. If you'd like to dismiss it, twist it, spin it, etc. that's perfectly fine. Truly.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by evil:
Or they would prefer to give Mac time to acclimate to the NFL game and not rush things. No matter what QB is taken at 3, he won't be better than JG on day one.

Isn't the whole point in taking Jones because he's some QB savant that's ready day 1?

If the plan is to sit whomever for a yr, why in the world would you not go for elite traits and upside? Makes absolutely no sense

Not necessarily. The pro ready stuff really helps with upping the competition for the backup spot this year given JG's injury history.

What if they are drafting elite cerebral traits with Mac?

Yup, like AS said...elite accuracy, processing and leadership. Notice, not one single "physical" trait referenced.

All I'm saying is, like ShanaLynch are doing as we speak, be open. Consider everything. Connect the dots. Be objective. This is a huge decision and nobody is diving deeper into this than ShanaLynch. Their careers are on the line here.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by evil:
Or they would prefer to give Mac time to acclimate to the NFL game and not rush things. No matter what QB is taken at 3, he won't be better than JG on day one.

Isn't the whole point in taking Jones because he's some QB savant that's ready day 1?

If the plan is to sit whomever for a yr, why in the world would you not go for elite traits and upside? Makes absolutely no sense

No. Mac jones is the perfect robot for shanahans perfect system. He will benefit to take a year to play under center and really intellectualize the offense while jimmy plays. Apparently he is smarter than einstein.

Fields is the worst fit in shanahans system. Lance is not very accurate and too raw.

Mac is the pick whether the fans like it or not.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by highway49:
More suppositions....
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/five_nfl_prospects_who_could_experience_draft_day_slides/s1_12680_34603133

"This all comes down to Kyle Shanahan. If he goes against the advice of scouts and doesn't break from his old habits, Mac Jones will be the No. 3 overall pick. He offers the upside to become an advanced version of Kirk Cousins, a quarterback who executes the offense his coach calls and consistently helps keep his team in a position to win. In ideal circumstances, Jones can be a good NFL quarterback"

Is Kyle gonna Kyle? Or get someone to open up this offense for real? I still think he's not stupid enough to pick Jones.

LOL. I wouldn't call him stupid for taking a QB he believes is optimal and ideal for his offense but if he does and it fails, and Fields & Lance take off, he's definitely going to feel stupid.

Ok. Stubborn and arrogant then. If JG isn't traded by draft day, they're picking Fields. If 'Nickel Slots' Jones is so ready for the NFL, they should be chomping at the bit to get some of that draft capital back.

Or they would prefer to give Mac time to acclimate to the NFL game and not rush things. No matter what QB is taken at 3, he won't be better than JG on day one.

Agree, but in Mac's case he'll eventually be only as good as JG. All the talking points rave about he's the most NFL ready (he's not BTW, Lawrence is.)

Matt Ryan said he didn't have a strong grasp on Kyle's offense until year 2. If Mac was the pick, best case scenario if for JG to stay healthy all year allowing Mac to soak it all up and be given a boat load of time to digest the offense.

But Matt Ryan wasn't super-genius-elite-processor-guy either.

Mac Jones goes through his progressions a few times and now he's labeled as this idiot savant football genius.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by evil:
Or they would prefer to give Mac time to acclimate to the NFL game and not rush things. No matter what QB is taken at 3, he won't be better than JG on day one.

Isn't the whole point in taking Jones because he's some QB savant that's ready day 1?

If the plan is to sit whomever for a yr, why in the world would you not go for elite traits and upside? Makes absolutely no sense

Because what you think are elite are not what Kyle sees as elite for his system. Perception.

And I'm not saying I don't understand your take either. Believe me, I get it!

...because not being able to run fast or with great agility while escaping the rush can be an elite trait too!! All depends on the system.

Ever find it interesting that you actually feel you know better than Kyle for things you'd LIKE to see on the team (like preference of more capital spent on Olinemen,...1-5)....

But for things you don't particularly care for (like athletic QBs),...you quickly divert to "Kyle and his system knows best" when all else fails?

Interesrting back and forth between the two sides,...lol. But carry on....

Originally posted by NCommand:
Because what you think are elite are not what Kyle sees as elite for his system. Perception.

And I'm not saying I don't understand your take either. Believe me, I get it!

Not according to what kyle has said the past 6 months