Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by NCommand:
Well this sucks ass.

To reiterate, 44 qbs have gone first, second or third overall in the last 50 NFL drafts, and exactly two--Aikman and Peyton--have won Super Bowls starting for the teams that drafted them. That makes selecting qbs up high exceptionally risky. My parting shot for @otlonespn: pic.twitter.com/XZ7jEVNmbK

— Jeremy Schaap (@JeremySchaap) April 10, 2021

wait a min.....

Drew Bledsoe.....

Terry Bradshaw

Lets think about this... I don't think this stat is correct....

( i almost said eli maning too....but yeahhh....traded)

If you take out the WIN the Super Bowl part....The field expands by a ton. You end up adding McNair, McNabb, Matt Ryan. If you take out unique situations like Eli and Elway....

Yeah you end up with a strong correlation of success to Top QB prospects...its almost line the NFL knows this and drafts top QB prospects high.

Originally posted by boomer49er:
Hedging his words.

"By the team that drafted them."

Elway and Eli were both draft and trades. Would throw the entire stat out if they had just traded the pick instead....same result.

Also how many players in general drafted top 3 who won Super Bowls with the team that drafted them? Only guys I can think of are Pace/fisher/Miller?

Only 29 starting QBs have ever won the Super Bowl, so no matter how you acquire a QB the statistics will not be in your favor.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by boomer49er:
Hedging his words.

"By the team that drafted them."

Elway and Eli were both draft and trades. Would throw the entire stat out if they had just traded the pick instead....same result.

Also how many players in general drafted top 3 who won Super Bowls with the team that drafted them? Only guys I can think of are Pace/fisher/Miller?

Russell Maryland, DT. That's all I got.

Originally posted by NCommand:
No, it's being in personnel control and not bringing in a single athletic profile QB in 5 off seasons (to date).

How many guys have had the athletic profile of Fields with the similar ability in the pocket he has?

Outside of Dobbs CJ was as athletic if not more so than anyone else drafted outside the first in 2017.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

why in the world would you not go for elite traits and upside? Makes absolutely no sense

Because what you think are elite are not what Kyle sees as elite for his system. Perception.

And I'm not saying I don't understand your take either. Believe me, I get it!

"You go back to that one general manager, his exact words were, he's got elite accuracy, he's an elite processor and he's got elite leadership skills," Schefter said. "Those were his exact words. He said that he is higher on draft boards, more highly rated than fans believe he is. So I like to go to people whose opinion I respect, ask them their opinion and see what they say. And what I've heard about Mac Jones so far is pretty strong, pretty favorable."

Originally posted by Giedi:

It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making, passion and leadership that is most attractive.

But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10+ pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

It's gonna be jones, if shefty already saying then we better start ordering our number 12 jones jerseys , I'll support whoever it is

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Rathof44:
But Matt Ryan wasn't super-genius-elite-processor-guy either.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Mac Jones goes through his progressions a few times and now he's labeled as this idiot savant football genius.

Nobody said or is saying that.

There is literally a guy in this thread positively referring to him as rainman lol.

So we take what one guy says and pass it off as the general opinion or consensus?

Been tons of references to his "elite processing " here and everywhere else for that matter. This processing claim is nothing new.

I'm with Fields or Jones. I'll support whom ever it is.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
No, it's being in personnel control and not bringing in a single athletic profile QB in 5 off seasons (to date).

How many guys have had the athletic profile of Fields with the similar ability in the pocket he has?

Outside of Dobbs CJ was as athletic if not more so than anyone else drafted outside the first in 2017.

I won't stand for the Josh Johnson slander either...pretty sure he's on the team right now

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Been tons of references to his "elite processing " here and everywhere else for that matter. This processing claim is nothing new.

And for all that elite processing

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Giedi:
It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making and leadership that is most attractive.
But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10+ pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

Have to be willing to actually workout to gain that 10 lbs of muscle and stop crushing chips Ahoy and beer. Big ask.

Speed and arm strength won't change.

It's amazing how justin fields managed to even play football with the piss poor talent he got to play with at Ohio State.

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
It's gonna be jones, if shefty already saying then we better start ordering our number 12 jones jerseys , I'll support whoever it is

Lol I ain't buying that s**t! He would get the least Jersey sells of the rooks guaranteed