Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by jcs:


It's amazing how justin fields managed to even play football with the piss poor talent he got to play with at Ohio State.

Can u translate? Left my electron microscope at the office.

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Giedi:

It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making and leadership that is most attractive.

But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10+ pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

Have to be willing to actually workout to gain that 10 lbs of muscle and stop crushing chips Ahoy and beer. Big ask.

Speed and arm strength won't change.

I don't think so. Mac is a hard worker, he graduated college in 3 years and already has a masters degree so his focus was on his studies. Now all of his focus will be on QB and working out etc instead of getting his masters degree.

Speed can be improved. Why do you think they have speed coaches? I got a lot faster working out
Exercises to Improve Speed

Mac's arm strength is already good, he can throw it 65 yards. But arm strength can also be improved by working out.
How to Improve Arm Strength

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Giedi:
It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making and leadership that is most attractive.
But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10+ pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

Have to be willing to actually workout to gain that 10 lbs of muscle and stop crushing chips Ahoy and beer. Big ask.

Speed and arm strength won't change.

I think his arm strength and speed would change. It can't go anywhere but up.

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by jcs:


It's amazing how justin fields managed to even play football with the piss poor talent he got to play with at Ohio State.

Can u translate? Left my electron microscope at the office.

Jones had no real bad games this last year...dominated college football and played the position at a level that set passing records including completion percentage and total QBR but it's used as an excuse against him because of the talent he played with. Fields on the other hand had 3 bad games in a shortened 8 game season playing exclusively against Big 10 opponents up until the playoffs and the Fields apologizers use the talent surrounding him as the excuse for his poor play and how he had to elevate himself around them.

Truth is they both played with loaded teams surrounded with talent at premium positions....difference is Mac did more with his opportunity while playing against the SEC than Fields did last year only facing Big 10 opponents.

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Giedi:
It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making and leadership that is most attractive.

But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10+ pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

Have to be willing to actually workout to gain that 10 lbs of muscle and stop crushing chips Ahoy and beer. Big ask.

Speed and arm strength won't change.

I don't think so. Mac is a hard worker, he graduated college in 3 years and already has a masters degree so his focus was on his studies. Now all of his focus will be on QB and working out etc instead of getting his masters degree.

Speed can be improved. Why do you think they have speed coaches? I got a lot faster working out

Mac's arm strength is already good, he can throw it 65 yards. But arm strength can also be improved by working out.
How to Improve Arm Strength

His current physique indicates the opposite of hard worker.

I guess when you're 20-30 lbs flabby, then losing that weight would make you faster, carrying less of a boiler.
To be clear he ain't going 4.72 to 4.5. He's going 4.72 to 4.70.

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Giedi:
It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making and leadership that is most attractive.

But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10+ pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

Have to be willing to actually workout to gain that 10 lbs of muscle and stop crushing chips Ahoy and beer. Big ask.

Speed and arm strength won't change.

I don't think so. Mac is a hard worker, he graduated college in 3 years and already has a masters degree so his focus was on his studies. Now all of his focus will be on QB and working out etc instead of getting his masters degree.

Speed can be improved. Why do you think they have speed coaches? I got a lot faster working out

Mac's arm strength is already good, he can throw it 65 yards. But arm strength can also be improved by working out.
How to Improve Arm Strength

His current physique indicates the opposite of hard worker.

His physique was good enough to dominate Fields and Ohio State in the National Championship.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Giedi:
It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making and leadership that is most attractive.

But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10+ pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

Have to be willing to actually workout to gain that 10 lbs of muscle and stop crushing chips Ahoy and beer. Big ask.

Speed and arm strength won't change.

I don't think so. Mac is a hard worker, he graduated college in 3 years and already has a masters degree so his focus was on his studies. Now all of his focus will be on QB and working out etc instead of getting his masters degree.

Speed can be improved. Why do you think they have speed coaches? I got a lot faster working out

Mac's arm strength is already good, he can throw it 65 yards. But arm strength can also be improved by working out.
How to Improve Arm Strength

His current physique indicates the opposite of hard worker.

His physique was good enough to dominate Fields and Ohio State in the National Championship.

He should, 3 first rounderz at the skill positions and best OL in counrty. Switch the QBs same thing happens.

Is there a single QB in this draft that wouldn't have won the National Championship on this Alabama team? Probably not. If anything, Jones might have held them back.

Originally posted by jcs:
Jones had no real bad games this last year...dominated college football and played the position at a level that set passing records including completion percentage and total QBR but it's used as an excuse against him because of the talent he played with. Fields on the other hand had 3 bad games in a shortened 8 game season playing exclusively against Big 10 opponents up until the playoffs and the Fields apologizers use the talent surrounding him as the excuse for his poor play and how he had to elevate himself around them.

Truth is they both played with loaded teams surrounded with talent at premium positions....difference is Mac did more with his opportunity while playing against the SEC than Fields did last year only facing Big 10 opponents.

OSU is 69-4 vs the Big 10 since Urban Meyer. Anyone who doesn't think OSU has the same talent gap just doesn't watch college football.

But his bad games are excusable with all the covid disruptions.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Giedi:
It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making and leadership that is most attractive.

But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10+ pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

Have to be willing to actually workout to gain that 10 lbs of muscle and stop crushing chips Ahoy and beer. Big ask.

Speed and arm strength won't change.

I don't think so. Mac is a hard worker, he graduated college in 3 years and already has a masters degree so his focus was on his studies. Now all of his focus will be on QB and working out etc instead of getting his masters degree.

Speed can be improved. Why do you think they have speed coaches? I got a lot faster working out

Mac's arm strength is already good, he can throw it 65 yards. But arm strength can also be improved by working out.
How to Improve Arm Strength

His current physique indicates the opposite of hard worker.

His physique was good enough to dominate Fields and Ohio State in the National Championship.

Shoot that whole Bama team dominated Fields and the Buckeyes. Not just Jones. Was a collective beatdown effort. Pretty much what Bama did to everyone this year. That whole Bama team was on a fkn mission.
It does help when you have a freakin all star cast surrounding you week in week out.

Originally posted by MrNineSeven:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Giedi:
It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making and leadership that is most attractive.

But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10+ pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

Have to be willing to actually workout to gain that 10 lbs of muscle and stop crushing chips Ahoy and beer. Big ask.

Speed and arm strength won't change.

I don't think so. Mac is a hard worker, he graduated college in 3 years and already has a masters degree so his focus was on his studies. Now all of his focus will be on QB and working out etc instead of getting his masters degree.

Speed can be improved. Why do you think they have speed coaches? I got a lot faster working out

Mac's arm strength is already good, he can throw it 65 yards. But arm strength can also be improved by working out.
How to Improve Arm Strength

His current physique indicates the opposite of hard worker.

His physique was good enough to dominate Fields and Ohio State in the National Championship.

Shoot that whole Bama team dominated Fields and the Buckeyes. Not just Jones. Was a collective beatdown effort. Pretty much what Bama did to everyone this year. That whole Bama team was on a fkn mission.
It does help when you have a freakin all star cast surrounding you week in week out.

He knows. Hes just mad that nobody wants Mac Jones anymore so hes latching onto anything lol

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Giedi:
It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making and leadership that is most attractive.

But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10+ pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

Have to be willing to actually workout to gain that 10 lbs of muscle and stop crushing chips Ahoy and beer. Big ask.

Speed and arm strength won't change.

I don't think so. Mac is a hard worker, he graduated college in 3 years and already has a masters degree so his focus was on his studies. Now all of his focus will be on QB and working out etc instead of getting his masters degree.

Speed can be improved. Why do you think they have speed coaches? I got a lot faster working out

Mac's arm strength is already good, he can throw it 65 yards. But arm strength can also be improved by working out.
How to Improve Arm Strength

His current physique indicates the opposite of hard worker.

I guess when you're 20-30 lbs flabby, then losing that weight would make you faster, carrying less of a boiler.
To be clear he ain't going 4.72 to 4.5. He's going 4.72 to 4.70.

you cant be serious so peyton manning Rivers Big Ben tom brady are not all hard workers?

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Giedi:
It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making, passion and leadership that is most attractive.

But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10+ pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

I'm sorry but I don't know what you see. These numbers to me don't change the fact that he looks like an old man with bad knees when he runs. Even when he's backpedaling he looks like an old man. It reminds me of all the last few years when shack was on the basketball court.

And I love the fact that people forget that he has probably arguably the best two receivers in the draft. It's not hard to anticipate that they're gonna be open. Now I'm not saying Justin fields doesn't have a Elite talent. But I can pretty much say with a lot of confidence Jones had a superior offensive line to what Justin fields had, Jones had better receivers, And played defenses that we're not as good as what fields face. I don't think anything I said here can be challenged