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Originally posted by fan49:
And I love the fact that people forget that he has probably arguably the best two receivers in the draft. It's not hard to anticipate that they're gonna be open. Now I'm not saying Justin fields doesn't have a Elite talent. But I can pretty much say with a lot of confidence Jones had a superior offensive line to what Justin fields had, Jones had better receivers, And played defenses that we're not as good as what fields face. I don't think anything I said here can be challenged

youre telling me the BIg 10 has better defenses than the SEC?

I want fields more than jones but the only challenging defenses Fields played was Northwestern and Alabama and those games didnt go well for Fields
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Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by fan49:
And I love the fact that people forget that he has probably arguably the best two receivers in the draft. It's not hard to anticipate that they're gonna be open. Now I'm not saying Justin fields doesn't have a Elite talent. But I can pretty much say with a lot of confidence Jones had a superior offensive line to what Justin fields had, Jones had better receivers, And played defenses that we're not as good as what fields face. I don't think anything I said here can be challenged

youre telling me the BIg 10 has better defenses than the SEC?

I want fields more than jones but the only challenging defenses Fields played was Northwestern and Alabama and those games didnt go well for Fields

It's been proven over and over again that Justin fields played better defenses
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Is there a single QB in this draft that wouldn't have won the National Championship on this Alabama team? Probably not. If anything, Jones might have held them back.

Now this is funny.
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Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Is there a single QB in this draft that wouldn't have won the National Championship on this Alabama team? Probably not. If anything, Jones might have held them back.

Facts
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
No, it's being in personnel control and not bringing in a single athletic profile QB in 5 off seasons (to date).

How many guys have had the athletic profile of Fields with the similar ability in the pocket he has?

Outside of Dobbs CJ was as athletic if not more so than anyone else drafted outside the first in 2017.

LOL. Again, total control and not a single one. Hell, grab an athletic profile in the 3rd or 4th to develop Cousins style. Nope. Nothing. BeatHard is as close as it gets.
Originally posted by jcs:

s**t, Mac Jones might go #2 before Zach Wilson!
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
No, it's being in personnel control and not bringing in a single athletic profile QB in 5 off seasons (to date).

How many guys have had the athletic profile of Fields with the similar ability in the pocket he has?

Outside of Dobbs CJ was as athletic if not more so than anyone else drafted outside the first in 2017.

I won't stand for the Josh Johnson slander either...pretty sure he's on the team right now

Haha. Good one!
Originally posted by fan49:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Is there a single QB in this draft that wouldn't have won the National Championship on this Alabama team? Probably not. If anything, Jones might have held them back.

Facts

not sure how held them back considereing they won a national championship and had a historic college offense not just for the year but in college football history

i mean they averaged 50 points a game how exactly were they held back
Originally posted by fan49:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Is there a single QB in this draft that wouldn't have won the National Championship on this Alabama team? Probably not. If anything, Jones might have held them back.

Facts

Opinions are not facts though.
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by fan49:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Is there a single QB in this draft that wouldn't have won the National Championship on this Alabama team? Probably not. If anything, Jones might have held them back.

Facts

not sure how held them back considereing they won a national championship and had a historic college offense not just for the year but in college football history

i mean they averaged 50 points a game how exactly were they held back

Could have averaged 60.
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Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by fan49:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Is there a single QB in this draft that wouldn't have won the National Championship on this Alabama team? Probably not. If anything, Jones might have held them back.

Facts

not sure how held them back considereing they won a national championship and had a historic college offense not just for the year but in college football history

i mean they averaged 50 points a game how exactly were they held back

I believe his point was you could've taken any other quarterback and they would've had the same results especially the top five quarterbacks. I truly believe fields Wilson and Lawrence would've Probably have the same or better numbers. And they would've been more fun to watch for sure
Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
Originally posted by MrNineSeven:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Originally posted by maxsmart:
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Originally posted by maxsmart:
Originally posted by Giedi:
It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making and leadership that is most attractive.

But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04


Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10+ pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

Have to be willing to actually workout to gain that 10 lbs of muscle and stop crushing chips Ahoy and beer. Big ask.

Speed and arm strength won't change.

I don't think so. Mac is a hard worker, he graduated college in 3 years and already has a masters degree so his focus was on his studies. Now all of his focus will be on QB and working out etc instead of getting his masters degree.

Speed can be improved. Why do you think they have speed coaches? I got a lot faster working out

Mac's arm strength is already good, he can throw it 65 yards. But arm strength can also be improved by working out.
How to Improve Arm Strength

His current physique indicates the opposite of hard worker.

His physique was good enough to dominate Fields and Ohio State in the National Championship.

Shoot that whole Bama team dominated Fields and the Buckeyes. Not just Jones. Was a collective beatdown effort. Pretty much what Bama did to everyone this year. That whole Bama team was on a fkn mission.
It does help when you have a freakin all star cast surrounding you week in week out.

He knows. Hes just mad that nobody wants Mac Jones anymore so hes latching onto anything lol

Mac Jones "dominated" in the same way Ken Dorsey did.

College football is pretty easy when you have an NFL roster to play with.
Originally posted by fan49:
Originally posted by maxsmart:
Originally posted by Giedi:
It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making, passion and leadership that is most attractive.

But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04


Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10+ pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

I'm sorry but I don't know what you see. These numbers to me don't change the fact that he looks like an old man with bad knees when he runs. Even when he's backpedaling he looks like an old man. It reminds me of all the last few years when shack was on the basketball court.


I think it's your bias. The numbers don't lie. Mac is a good athlete. He can dunk! He's quick (good shuttle & 3 cone times).
He will get better faster stronger with training and not having to study for his masters degree.
[ Edited by maxsmart on Apr 11, 2021 at 3:45 PM ]
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by fan49:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Is there a single QB in this draft that wouldn't have won the National Championship on this Alabama team? Probably not. If anything, Jones might have held them back.

Facts

not sure how held them back considereing they won a national championship and had a historic college offense not just for the year but in college football history

i mean they averaged 50 points a game how exactly were they held back

Could have averaged 60.

So why didn't they ever average more PPG with Tua then they did with Mac? I mean Tua had Smith and Waddle but also had Jeudy and Ruggs as well.

More skill talent with Tua but less PPG than with Mac.

Sark put more on the QBs plate with Mac than with Tua.

But Mac held them back?
Originally posted by maxsmart:
I think it's your bias. The numbers don't lie. Mac is a good athlete. He can dunk! He's quick (good shuttle & 3 cone times).
He will get better faster stronger with training and not having to study for his masters degree.

Film doesn't lie and on film he looks like a slug.
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