Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by fan49:
It's been proven over and over again that Justin fields played better defenses

Not really. Big 10 just had 1 good offense this year and that's OSU. Even Penn State was only 37th.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Is there a single QB in this draft that wouldn't have won the National Championship on this Alabama team? Probably not. If anything, Jones might have held them back.

Facts

not sure how held them back considereing they won a national championship and had a historic college offense not just for the year but in college football history

i mean they averaged 50 points a game how exactly were they held back

Could have averaged 60.

So why didn't they ever average more PPG with Tua then they did with Mac? I mean Tua had Smith and Waddle but also had Jeudy and Ruggs as well.

More skill talent with Tua but less PPG than with Mac.

Sark put more on the QBs plate with Mac than with Tua.

But Mac held them back?

"You go back to that one general manager, his exact words were, he's got elite accuracy, he's an elite processor and he's got elite leadership skills," Schefter said. "Those were his exact words. He said that he is higher on draft boards, more highly rated than fans believe he is. So I like to go to people whose opinion I respect, ask them their opinion and see what they say. And what I've heard about Mac Jones so far is pretty strong, pretty favorable."

Elite might be an understatement when it comes to Jones' accuracy, as he set an NCAA record by completing 77.4 percent of his passes in 2020. Jones also broke the single-season passer efficiency rating record (203.1) previously held by 2020 No. 1 overall draft pick Joe Burrow.

In addition to finishing third in the Heisman Trophy voting, Jones led the Crimson Tide to a national championship in 2020. He was the unquestioned leader of a team littered with NFL talent, and all indications have pointed to a high level of respect from his Alabama teammates.

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Is there a single QB in this draft that wouldn't have won the National Championship on this Alabama team? Probably not. If anything, Jones might have held them back.

Facts

not sure how held them back considereing they won a national championship and had a historic college offense not just for the year but in college football history

i mean they averaged 50 points a game how exactly were they held back

I believe his point was you could've taken any other quarterback and they would've had the same results especially the top five quarterbacks. I truly believe fields Wilson and Lawrence would've Probably have the same or better numbers. And they would've been more fun to watch for sure

Yeah there's no way any of those other qbs would've done better than what Mac did. The offense was possibly the best of all time.
He may not be as good in the league as those guys, but Wilson let his team get beat by a lesser talented Coastal Carolina and Oh St won a few games in spite of fields.
So, his point was ignorant

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by MrNineSeven:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Giedi:
It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making and leadership that is most attractive.

But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10 pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

Have to be willing to actually workout to gain that 10 lbs of muscle and stop crushing chips Ahoy and beer. Big ask.

Speed and arm strength won't change.

I don't think so. Mac is a hard worker, he graduated college in 3 years and already has a masters degree so his focus was on his studies. Now all of his focus will be on QB and working out etc instead of getting his masters degree.

Speed can be improved. Why do you think they have speed coaches? I got a lot faster working out

Mac's arm strength is already good, he can throw it 65 yards. But arm strength can also be improved by working out.
How to Improve Arm Strength

His current physique indicates the opposite of hard worker.

His physique was good enough to dominate Fields and Ohio State in the National Championship.

Shoot that whole Bama team dominated Fields and the Buckeyes. Not just Jones. Was a collective beatdown effort. Pretty much what Bama did to everyone this year. That whole Bama team was on a fkn mission.
It does help when you have a freakin all star cast surrounding you week in week out.

He knows. Hes just mad that nobody wants Mac Jones anymore so hes latching onto anything lol

Mac Jones "dominated" in the same way Ken Dorsey did.

College football is pretty easy when you have an NFL roster to play with.

Originally posted by jcs:


It's amazing how justin fields managed to even play football with the piss poor talent he got to play with at Ohio State.

Mac wasn't the only prospect competing with an NFL roster. OSU and Bama both have the same number of prospects drafted to the NFL these last two years. Both schools along with Clemson have dominated college recruiting and are absolutely loaded with talent.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by MrNineSeven:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Giedi:
It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making and leadership that is most attractive.

But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10 pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

Have to be willing to actually workout to gain that 10 lbs of muscle and stop crushing chips Ahoy and beer. Big ask.

Speed and arm strength won't change.

I don't think so. Mac is a hard worker, he graduated college in 3 years and already has a masters degree so his focus was on his studies. Now all of his focus will be on QB and working out etc instead of getting his masters degree.

Speed can be improved. Why do you think they have speed coaches? I got a lot faster working out

Mac's arm strength is already good, he can throw it 65 yards. But arm strength can also be improved by working out.
How to Improve Arm Strength

His current physique indicates the opposite of hard worker.

His physique was good enough to dominate Fields and Ohio State in the National Championship.

Shoot that whole Bama team dominated Fields and the Buckeyes. Not just Jones. Was a collective beatdown effort. Pretty much what Bama did to everyone this year. That whole Bama team was on a fkn mission.
It does help when you have a freakin all star cast surrounding you week in week out.

He knows. Hes just mad that nobody wants Mac Jones anymore so hes latching onto anything lol

Mac Jones "dominated" in the same way Ken Dorsey did.

College football is pretty easy when you have an NFL roster to play with.

Originally posted by jcs:


It's amazing how justin fields managed to even play football with the piss poor talent he got to play with at Ohio State.

Mac wasn't the only prospect competing with an NFL roster. OSU and Bama both have the same number of prospects drafted to the NFL these last two years. Both schools along with Clemson have dominated college recruiting and are absolutely loaded with talent.

This Alabama offense is historic. You know this. Mac had better talent. We all know it. Just stop.

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by MrNineSeven:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Giedi:
It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making and leadership that is most attractive.

But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10 pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

Have to be willing to actually workout to gain that 10 lbs of muscle and stop crushing chips Ahoy and beer. Big ask.

Speed and arm strength won't change.

I don't think so. Mac is a hard worker, he graduated college in 3 years and already has a masters degree so his focus was on his studies. Now all of his focus will be on QB and working out etc instead of getting his masters degree.

Speed can be improved. Why do you think they have speed coaches? I got a lot faster working out

Mac's arm strength is already good, he can throw it 65 yards. But arm strength can also be improved by working out.
How to Improve Arm Strength

His current physique indicates the opposite of hard worker.

His physique was good enough to dominate Fields and Ohio State in the National Championship.

Shoot that whole Bama team dominated Fields and the Buckeyes. Not just Jones. Was a collective beatdown effort. Pretty much what Bama did to everyone this year. That whole Bama team was on a fkn mission.
It does help when you have a freakin all star cast surrounding you week in week out.

He knows. Hes just mad that nobody wants Mac Jones anymore so hes latching onto anything lol

Mac Jones "dominated" in the same way Ken Dorsey did.

College football is pretty easy when you have an NFL roster to play with.

Originally posted by jcs:


It's amazing how justin fields managed to even play football with the piss poor talent he got to play with at Ohio State.

Mac wasn't the only prospect competing with an NFL roster. OSU and Bama both have the same number of prospects drafted to the NFL these last two years. Both schools along with Clemson have dominated college recruiting and are absolutely loaded with talent.

This Alabama offense is historic. You know this. Mac had better talent. We all know it. Just stop.

I'm sorry, I will stop backing up my claims with proof since that hurts the Anti Mac narrative.

Bama is the only team where you can say they lost 2 1st round wrs then look around and still say it's the best. They were loaded beyond what any other school has but it's just as easy to dominate at OSU, Clemson and NDSU. None of these qb's were challenged much.

Originally posted by jcs:

Good interview. Ourlads says:
Mac Jones #2 overall
Justin Fields #3
Zach Wilson #4

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by jcs:

Good interview. Ourlads says:
Mac Jones #2 overall
Justin Fields #3
Zach Wilson #4

No wonder hes a former scout.

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by jcs:

Good interview. Ourlads says:
Mac Jones #2 overall
Justin Fields #3
Zach Wilson #4

I agree with his point about Wilson being out of place in NYC though. I think he would fit in much better here in SF.

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by jcs:

Good interview. Ourlads says:
Mac Jones #2 overall
Justin Fields #3
Zach Wilson #4

No wonder hes a former scout.

Beat me to it......former. Pretty obvious why now

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Is there a single QB in this draft that wouldn't have won the National Championship on this Alabama team? Probably not. If anything, Jones might have held them back.

Facts

not sure how held them back considereing they won a national championship and had a historic college offense not just for the year but in college football history

i mean they averaged 50 points a game how exactly were they held back

Could have averaged 60.

So why didn't they ever average more PPG with Tua then they did with Mac? I mean Tua had Smith and Waddle but also had Jeudy and Ruggs as well.

More skill talent with Tua but less PPG than with Mac.

Sark put more on the QBs plate with Mac than with Tua.

But Mac held them back?

"You go back to that one general manager, his exact words were, he's got elite accuracy, he's an elite processor and he's got elite leadership skills," Schefter said. "Those were his exact words. He said that he is higher on draft boards, more highly rated than fans believe he is. So I like to go to people whose opinion I respect, ask them their opinion and see what they say. And what I've heard about Mac Jones so far is pretty strong, pretty favorable."

Elite might be an understatement when it comes to Jones' accuracy, as he set an NCAA record by completing 77.4 percent of his passes in 2020. Jones also broke the single-season passer efficiency rating record (203.1) previously held by 2020 No. 1 overall draft pick Joe Burrow.

In addition to finishing third in the Heisman Trophy voting, Jones led the Crimson Tide to a national championship in 2020. He was the unquestioned leader of a team littered with NFL talent, and all indications have pointed to a high level of respect from his Alabama teammates.

So I have you down for a Peyton Manning and Tom Brady lovechild. ✅

Originally posted by Rathof44:

So I have you down for a Peyton Manning and Tom Brady lovechild. ✅

No, "MJ" Mac is way better than Brady or Manning. I love me some Mac!

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Is there a single QB in this draft that wouldn't have won the National Championship on this Alabama team? Probably not. If anything, Jones might have held them back.

Facts

not sure how held them back considereing they won a national championship and had a historic college offense not just for the year but in college football history

i mean they averaged 50 points a game how exactly were they held back

Could have averaged 60.

So why didn't they ever average more PPG with Tua then they did with Mac? I mean Tua had Smith and Waddle but also had Jeudy and Ruggs as well.

More skill talent with Tua but less PPG than with Mac.

Sark put more on the QBs plate with Mac than with Tua.

But Mac held them back?

"You go back to that one general manager, his exact words were, he's got elite accuracy, he's an elite processor and he's got elite leadership skills," Schefter said. "Those were his exact words. He said that he is higher on draft boards, more highly rated than fans believe he is. So I like to go to people whose opinion I respect, ask them their opinion and see what they say. And what I've heard about Mac Jones so far is pretty strong, pretty favorable."

Elite might be an understatement when it comes to Jones' accuracy, as he set an NCAA record by completing 77.4 percent of his passes in 2020. Jones also broke the single-season passer efficiency rating record (203.1) previously held by 2020 No. 1 overall draft pick Joe Burrow.

In addition to finishing third in the Heisman Trophy voting, Jones led the Crimson Tide to a national championship in 2020. He was the unquestioned leader of a team littered with NFL talent, and all indications have pointed to a high level of respect from his Alabama teammates.

I don't buy it. I think if you take Alabama's roster this last year and swap Mac with someone like Kyle Trask or Davis Mills, those guys get taken in the first round easily and Mac might go undrafted. Mac was hugely elevated by the team around him. I don't think he did much to elevate the team himself.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Is there a single QB in this draft that wouldn't have won the National Championship on this Alabama team? Probably not. If anything, Jones might have held them back.

Facts

not sure how held them back considereing they won a national championship and had a historic college offense not just for the year but in college football history

i mean they averaged 50 points a game how exactly were they held back

Could have averaged 60.

So why didn't they ever average more PPG with Tua then they did with Mac? I mean Tua had Smith and Waddle but also had Jeudy and Ruggs as well.

More skill talent with Tua but less PPG than with Mac.

Sark put more on the QBs plate with Mac than with Tua.

But Mac held them back?

"You go back to that one general manager, his exact words were, he's got elite accuracy, he's an elite processor and he's got elite leadership skills," Schefter said. "Those were his exact words. He said that he is higher on draft boards, more highly rated than fans believe he is. So I like to go to people whose opinion I respect, ask them their opinion and see what they say. And what I've heard about Mac Jones so far is pretty strong, pretty favorable."

Elite might be an understatement when it comes to Jones' accuracy, as he set an NCAA record by completing 77.4 percent of his passes in 2020. Jones also broke the single-season passer efficiency rating record (203.1) previously held by 2020 No. 1 overall draft pick Joe Burrow.

In addition to finishing third in the Heisman Trophy voting, Jones led the Crimson Tide to a national championship in 2020. He was the unquestioned leader of a team littered with NFL talent, and all indications have pointed to a high level of respect from his Alabama teammates.

I don't buy it. I think if you take Alabama's roster this last year and swap Mac with someone like Kyle Trask or Davis Mills, those guys get taken in the first round easily and Mac might go undrafted. Mac was hugely elevated by the team around him. I don't think he did much to elevate the team himself.

Except lead the schools best offense of all time. An undefeated title. And possibly the best offense in cfb history.
Yes we were loaded, but actually worse at left tackle and receiver, had the same RB that Tua had.
Lost a top 10 tackle and 2 first round receivers and then Waddle goes down early in the season.
He made plays that neither Trask or Mills are capable making, get this, with his legs.
And the thing you guys either underestimate or don't understand is pre snap reads and nuance. Dude was literally Peyton Manning of college football last year.