Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Except lead the schools best offense of all time. An undefeated title. And possibly the best offense in cfb history.
Yes we were loaded, but actually worse at left tackle and receiver, had the same RB that Tua had.
Lost a top 10 tackle and 2 first round receivers and then Waddle goes down early in the season.
He made plays that neither Trask or Mills are capable making, get this, with his legs.
And the thing you guys either underestimate or don't understand is pre snap reads and nuance. Dude was literally Peyton Manning of college football last year.

Mac won't elevate the 49ers. I am not sure he can beat out Jimmy in a fair competition. I think people forget that Jimmy came in 5 games at the end of a season and actually lifted the Niners. Jimmy is not a bad QB but to trade up THIS FAR out in front of the draft instead of doing a draft day trade up perhaps for a guy like Mac? That is not realistic. This trade up was for Justin Fields. I knew it when it happened. I for sure did not have Mac Jones going top five but yet we traded up to 3. I knew this was for Zach or Fields

The Jets are going to be so jealous if we draft Mac Jones.

Originally posted by jcs:


It's amazing how justin fields managed to even play football with the piss poor talent he got to play with at Ohio State.

Oh look jcs trying to dig at Fields. How shocking.

I wonder if this captures injuries, missed practices and all sorts of covid fun OSU had to deal with this season.

Plus we all know HS rankings always mean those guys play up or down to them.

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Giedi:
It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making, passion and leadership that is most attractive.

But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10+ pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

I'm sorry but I don't know what you see. These numbers to me don't change the fact that he looks like an old man with bad knees when he runs. Even when he's backpedaling he looks like an old man. It reminds me of all the last few years when shack was on the basketball court.

I think it's your bias. The numbers don't lie. Mac is a good athlete. He can dunk! He's quick (good shuttle & 3 cone times).
He will get better faster stronger with training and not having to study for his masters degree.

I think Mac is as good a scrambler as Fields and Lance are in the pocket (relatively speaking) and so in my eyes, that kind of evens everything up in a sense.

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Giedi:
It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making, passion and leadership that is most attractive.

But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10+ pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

I think currently he's 22, and I think humans can continue grow and develop until the age of 25. If so, then all the above stats can improve naturally for another year or two, in addition to diet, exercise and other techniques.

Here is a good video that shows Mac Jones is a better athlete than people think and not the Statue QB people try to claim he is. It is a compilation of highlights of him running with the football, Throwing on the run, Evading the rush, and buying more time with his legs to throw.

Originally posted by Bloodless:
Here is a good video that shows Mac Jones is a better athlete than people think and not the Statue QB people try to claim he is. It is a compilation of highlights of him running with the football, Throwing on the run, Evading the rush, and buying more time with his legs to throw.

When you watch them, do you feel like you saw a talent that would warrant 3 1st round picks?

Originally posted by Giedi:
I think Mac is as good a scrambler as Fields and Lance are in the pocket (relatively speaking) and so in my eyes, that kind of evens everything up in a sense.

Of course.

Originally posted by Giedi:

I think currently he's 22, and I think humans can continue grow and develop until the age of 25.

Huh? Where is this coming from? I think you're confusing physical development with brain development. You can be 40 years old and put on 20 lbs of muscle,...believe it or not.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Bloodless:
Here is a good video that shows Mac Jones is a better athlete than people think and not the Statue QB people try to claim he is. It is a compilation of highlights of him running with the football, Throwing on the run, Evading the rush, and buying more time with his legs to throw.

When you watch them, do you feel like you saw a talent that would warrant 3 1st round picks?

While obviously, we wouldn't be drafting Mac For his athleticism. We would be drafting him for his talent as a passer. But that video clearly shows he has more athletic ability than people give him credit for. Also, I do think there are some throws on the move in that video that does say from a pure talent perspective that he is worthy to be taken at #3. There are some elite-level throws in that video of him throwing on the move.

His floor is
kirk cousins...
and his ceiling is
KIRK FOOKIN COUSINS!

Originally posted by Bloodless:
Here is a good video that shows Mac Jones is a better athlete than people think and not the Statue QB people try to claim he is. It is a compilation of highlights of him running with the football, Throwing on the run, Evading the rush, and buying more time with his legs to throw.

Thanks, Bloodless - that video clearly shows him evading and throwing on the run. That should put to bed the notion that he's a statue and can't escape a rush.

Originally posted by Bloodless:
Here is a good video that shows Mac Jones is a better athlete than people think and not the Statue QB people try to claim he is. It is a compilation of highlights of him running with the football, Throwing on the run, Evading the rush, and buying more time with his legs to throw.

Best part is even when he has scramble lanes for a 1st down he keeps his eyes down field and bails out of the run for the open pass. That was always the issue with Young when he was inexperienced.

Originally posted by Bloodless:
Here is a good video that shows Mac Jones is a better athlete than people think and not the Statue QB people try to claim he is. It is a compilation of highlights of him running with the football, Throwing on the run, Evading the rush, and buying more time with his legs to throw.

Can we stop posting this video? Its now the 4th time someone tried to use it to show Mac Jones is a scrambler. I mean one "highlight" was a ball getting batted and he catches it and loses 2 yards.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Giedi:
It's just so obvious that the other two QB's are so much more athletically superior that - if Mac is the choice, its something other than athleticism that drew Kyle to Mac.

Of course, it's Mac's passing accuracy, processing speed, decision making, passion and leadership that is most attractive.

But Mac isn't the stiff athletically people make him out to be.
4.7 40, 7.04 3 cone are damn good times. A 32" vert means that he can dunk.
He's quick in the pocket and good hand-eye coordination from his years of playing tennis.

All of his test numbers are above average for QB's
Mac's Pro Day
Height: 6-2 5/8 Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

Mac is a late bloomer who with a good workout regime could add 10+ pounds of muscle and still gain considerable strength and speed in both his arm and legs. He will get faster, quicker and a stronger arm. He hasn't had a serious workout regimen probably because Alabama didn't expect him to be the starter.

TODD MCSHAY'S GUIDE TO EVERY COMBINE DRILL
Guide To Combine Drills

I think currently he's 22, and I think humans can continue grow and develop until the age of 25. If so, then all the above stats can improve naturally for another year or two, in addition to diet, exercise and other techniques.

Pro day numbers do lie.....a lot.

Didn't have a serious workout regimen? Bogus. Backups ARE allowed to workout, in fact they are expected to workout as much as starters.

Where is a video of him dunking? If he can throw down there's going to be a video of it somewhere.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Bloodless:
Here is a good video that shows Mac Jones is a better athlete than people think and not the Statue QB people try to claim he is. It is a compilation of highlights of him running with the football, Throwing on the run, Evading the rush, and buying more time with his legs to throw.

Can we stop posting this video? Its now the 4th time someone tried to use it to show Mac Jones is a scrambler. I mean one "highlight" was a ball getting batted and he catches it and loses 2 yards.

What are you talking about, Jcool? The video shows him scrambling and throwing on the run. Things that people are saying he can't do.